KMILES@CC.USU.EDU ("Kurt Miles, VAX Consultant") (02/05/89)
>>KMILES@CC.USU.EDU ("Kurt Miles, VAX Consultant") writes: >>I swa recently, ( and copied) the information on c compilers from Aztec. >>My question is: Are there other C compilers (especially for the 16-bit >>gs, as well as the 8 bit folks) that follow the new ANSI (maybe still draft) >>standards for C compilers? If so, what are they, who makes them, what do they >>cost, and where canI order them? > ----------------- RESPONSES: ----------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ #1. >The only ProDOS 8/AppleDOS 3.3 C compiler that I know of is the Aztec C >compiler. Manx fixed a few bugs in their ProDOS 8 release, but I don't think >they've done any work on it since. They don't seem too interested in the >Apple II line. In fact, it seems they're relying on people buying their >Macintosh C compiler, which can work with MPW to the point where I'm sure you >could produce cross-compiled code (as the MPW C development system can) for >the Apple IIgs, which is a dumb idea in my book. If you had a Mac, would you >want to write IIgs software too? > >As for GS/OS, APW C is available through APDA for $75. You can use this with >either the APW system for $100 (through APDA, of course), or the ByteWorks >ORCA/M 1.0A macro assembler, which includes an APW compatible interface (they >actually wrote both versions) for $35.25. > >There are no other GS/OS C compilers on the market that I know of, although I >know of a company that is working on one and should be ready by Fall '89. If >there are any other players, they're not ready yet either. >Here is the current (?) list of Aztec C products for the Apple //. >Apprentice C - C interpreter for Learning C $19.00 >C prime - Dos 3.3 Compiler (personal system) $75.00 >C65-d - Dos 3.3 Compiler (development system) $199.00 >C65-c - Prodos Compiler (Professional system) $299.00 > >Note: C65-c can also develop programs for the Dos 3.3 environment. > I've been using C65-c for about 3 month now and I like it. >I had to (and am continuing to) make changes to the vi clone that >came with the package,full featured it ain't. ;-) > > I got full source for the editor though,and since I'm learning >C anyway,It gives me something to work on. > > The prices listed are current as far as I know. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- RESPONSE: --------- #2. ] ]From: IN%"Info-Apple@BRL.mil" 31-JAN-1989 06:16 ]To.: KURT MILES <KMILES@cc.usu.edu> ]Subj: Re: C compiler for the apple //c ] ]From: The Ultron <CYLau%UNCAMULT.BITNET@CORNELLC.CIT.CORNELL.edu> ]Subject: Re: C compiler for the apple //c ] ] ]------- There is the Manx series of compilers for apple, but those work ]best if you have a ramdisk/hard drive etc.. there is also the Hyper C ]series from The WSM Group - there is both a ProDOS and DOS version + a ]shareware version which uses its own dos (1 k blocks and superblock ](like un*x)) $49.95 shareware fee gets you the newest version + a ]printed manual.. ] ]Maybe I'll upload the shareware version to binaries sometime... ] ]Chris... ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ #3. One other news item I've seen in inCider is that Byteworks has a version of C (ORCA/C) due for release in the near future. I believe (but am not sure) that is is gs specific. Other info is appreciated. KMILES@USU (bitnet) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- RESPONSE ---------- #4. From: IN%"CYLau@UNCAMULT.BITNET" "The Ultron" 31-JAN-1989 11:14 Subj: Re: c compiler The pd version of Hyper C is around 70% ANSI compatible-> because it is pd, av they have purposely made some changes to the standard... however these changes are only cosmetic and if you have the manual (by sending in th $49.95 shareware fee) you can convert them back to normal ANSI viadefines. It also includes a full editor (a VERY good copy of the apple Pascal editor, but a bit faster) and complete source code to the operating system (you could modify it to be compatible with ProDOS or Pascal etc..) The commercial versions (DOS/ProDOS) are 100% ANSI (more or less) and are very nice (read fast) Manx Aztec C, while probably the most standard of the bunch is very slow and cumbersome to use, the shell seems to have to be loaded back in after every command... it is also a bit expensive for my tastes ($299 for ProDOS, $199 for DOS and a VERY slow interpreted Prodos for $19.00 <-not bad price if you just want to try it out...) One last thought about the PD Hyper C, it only supports 5.25 devices and works best with 2 or more drives... Chris %% The Ultron - Christopher Lau %% C Code. C Code Run. Run, Code, RUN! %% %%(CYLau@UNCAMULT%UNCACDC.BITNET)%% PLEASE!!!! %% ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- =============================================================================== GreyMan ----------> and the <--------- DRAGON ........................ Kurt Miles : ..... remember, sometimes the DRAGON wins! 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Geva_Apple-Maniac_Patz@cup.portal.com (02/10/89)
I'd suree like that Shareware C compiler! I'd appreciate it no end if you'd upload it some day and drop me a note when you've done so. Thanks, %%%% Geva %%%% Geva_apple-maniac_Patz@CUP.PORTAL.COM ...!sun!portal!cup.portal.com!geva_apple-maniac_patz
CYLau@UNCAMULT.BITNET (The Ultron) (02/12/89)
I've already sent it off to Paul Nakada, so it should be up very soon.. there are 4 parts and you need DDD or PBH to unpack the resulting file Chris -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %% The Ultron - Christopher Lau %% C Code. C Code Run. Run, Code, RUN! %% %%(CYLau@UNCAMULT%UNCACDC.BITNET)%% PLEASE!!!! %% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
nakada@husc4.HARVARD.EDU (Paul Nakada) (02/13/89)
From article <890212030953.589562@UNCAMULT.BITNET>, by CYLau@UNCAMULT.BITNET (The Ultron): > I've already sent it off to Paul Nakada, so it should be up very soon.. > there are 4 parts and you need DDD or PBH to unpack the resulting file > > > Chris > > -- > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > %% The Ultron - Christopher Lau %% C Code. C Code Run. Run, Code, RUN! > %% %%(CYLau@UNCAMULT%UNCACDC.BITNET)%% PLEASE!!!! %% > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% it should be coming soon.. i have to convert it to 4 bit packing, though... It came to me in six bit packing, so it'll take a day or two to convert it.. it's on its way... -paul __ | Paul Nakada '89 #8-) | North House | nakada@husc4.HARVARD.EDU Harvard College | seismo>!harvard!husc4!nakada.UUCP Cambridge, MA 02138 | rutgers/ nakada@husc4.BITNET 617/498-6255 || 6264 | __|