jm7e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jeremy G. Mereness) (02/24/89)
I have seen 30 meg hard drives from Cirrus for under $600 in Macworld. These are rugged SCSI drives, but they were designed for the Mac. Is there any reason why they wouldn't work on a gs? and Would a CMS SCSI card do the job? Apple's SCSI card is not standard and I'm afrai things may go haywire mixing different brands together... jeremy mereness jm7e+@andrew.cmu.edu (arpa) r746jm7e@cmccvb (bitnet)
kamath@reed.UUCP (Sean Kamath) (02/26/89)
In article <4Y1Jriy00Uk1A27VJl@andrew.cmu.edu> jm7e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jeremy G. Mereness) writes: >I have seen 30 meg hard drives from Cirrus for under $600 in Macworld. > >These are rugged SCSI drives, but they were designed for the Mac. Is there any >reason why they wouldn't work on a gs? and Would a CMS SCSI card do the job? >Apple's SCSI card is not standard and I'm afrai things may go haywire mixing >different brands together... > >jeremy mereness Now, hold one a sec. . . None of the SCSI card that go in //'s are "standard" SCSI. . . Genereally beacuse they don't use 50 pins, alternating ground lines on a ribbon cable and using a 50 molex connector (BTW, be careful rolling your own. I called and electronics place, giving them and AMP part number for an IDC50 connector, and she wanted to give me a molex instead. . . Totally different. . .), and such. I suggest that in rolling your own, you stick with Apple's SCSI card. Mostly because you can A) get the tech ref for it from APDA, and B) it is actually better at being SCSI standard than the CMS card, or so I hear. Also, Apple's card supports partitioning *on the disk*, unlike the CMS card, which does it on the card. Sean Kamath -- UUCP: {decvax allegra ucbcad ucbvax hplabs}!tektronix!reed!kamath CSNET: reed!kamath@Tektronix.CSNET || BITNET: kamath@reed.BITNET ARPA: kamath%reed.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu US Snail: 3934 SE Boise, Portland, OR 97202-3126 (I hate 4 line .sigs!)
shankar@haarlem.SRC.Honeywell.COM (Son of Knuth) (02/28/89)
In article <11912@reed.UUCP> kamath@reed.UUCP (Sean Kamath) writes: #In article <4Y1Jriy00Uk1A27VJl@andrew.cmu.edu> jm7e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jeremy G. Mereness) writes: ##I have seen 30 meg hard drives from Cirrus for under $600 in Macworld. ## ##These are rugged SCSI drives, but they were designed for the Mac.Is there any ##reason why they wouldn't work on a gs? and Would a CMS SCSI card do the job? ##Apple's SCSI card is not standard and I'm afrai things may go haywire mixing ##different brands together... ## ##jeremy mereness # #Now, hold one a sec. . . None of the SCSI card that go in //'s are #"standard" SCSI. . . Genereally beacuse they don't use 50 pins, alternating #ground lines on a ribbon cable and using a 50 molex connector (BTW, be #careful rolling your own. Neither are Mac SCSI cards. Mac SCSI interfaces use the same 25-pin interface that the Apple II SCSI cards use. Off course, this doesn't neccessarily mean that the Cirrus hard drives will work, but in general Mac SCSI drives will work with the GS - I just purchased a Mirror drive which seems to work fine with the GS. --- Subash Shankar Honeywell Systems & Research Center voice: (612) 782 7558 US Snail: 3660 Technology Dr., Minneapolis, MN 55418 shankar@src.honeywell.com srcsip!shankar
shaver@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu (Dave Shaver) (03/01/89)
kamath@reed.UUCP (Sean Kamath) writes: > [...] None of the SCSI card that go in //'s are >"standard" SCSI. . . Genereally beacuse they don't use 50 pins [...] I've asked this question before without ever getting an answer: Besides then "general" problem of the cable, WHAT else is "wrong" with the Apple ][ SCSI card? If I get a SCSI drive (say a ST506 drive with an Adaptec ST506 <-> SCSI card) and get the apropos cable, can I hook it up to my Apple ][+ and run under ProDOS 8? Will someone who has done this (or at least tried it!) speak up? PLEASE? Also, does anyone have a cheap source for the either the Apple ][ SCSI card or for the Adaptec ST506 <-> SCSI card? /\ Dave Shaver -=*=- CS Systems Support Group, Iowa State University \\ UUCP: {hplabs!hp-lsd, uunet!umix!sharkey}!atanasoff!shaver \/ Internet: shaver@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu