[comp.sys.apple] Which ][ should I buy?

PGOETZ@LOYVAX.BITNET (03/08/89)

        I've been slogging along on my ][+ for about 9 years now.  Over
the years a number of annoying little hardware errors have crept in
(vertical lines caused by flaky behavior of the character generator rom,
a certain bit being ORed with characters when they are scrolled which occurs
when the machine heats up, flaky memory, etc).  Now it has taken to
powering down at random intervals.  This is a great frustration when
programming or word processing.  But I have so much software & knowledge
for the Apple that I want to continue using one.
        ][e or not ][e, that is the question.  I sure would like a new ][e,
with 80-columns, 128K memory, etc.  But should I settle for a ][e, or spring
for the ][gs?  I don't intend to do any more significant programming until
I can get a personal computer with 1M RAM, C, and UNIX, so I don't need a
developer's system.  Is the ][gs worth the price difference? (I can get a
][gs or replace my 79 Ford, but not both.  I use the ][+ more than the Ford.)
Should I look into the Laser 128?  And what's a ][c+?

Phil Goetz
PGOETZ@LOYVAX.bitnet

SEWALL@UCONNVM.BITNET (Murph Sewall) (03/08/89)

>        ][e or not ][e, that is the question.  I sure would like a new ][e,
>with 80-columns, 128K memory, etc.  But should I settle for a ][e, or spring
>for the ][gs?  I don't intend to do any more significant programming until
>I can get a personal computer with 1M RAM, C, and UNIX, so I don't need a
>developer's system.  Is the ][gs worth the price difference? (I can get a
>][gs or replace my 79 Ford, but not both.  I use the ][+ more than the Ford.)
>Should I look into the Laser 128?  And what's a ][c+?

You can get a good deal on a //c (I don't know about a //c+) from 47th
Street in NYC (I have a colleague who just bought one for his daughter).
The Laser will meet your current needs, has an expansion add-on box option,
and supports parallel printers (the serial to parallel converters for the
//c at about $60 work pretty well - I have a neighbor who bought one).

Your preferences seem much like mine; if true, then the Laser or //c has much
to recommend it (value for price) over the IIgs.

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krazy@claris.com (Jeff Erickson) (03/09/89)

From article <8903080649.aa02725@SMOKE.BRL.MIL>, by PGOETZ@LOYVAX.BITNET:
> 
>         ][e or not ][e, that is the question.  I sure would like a new ][e,
> with 80-columns, 128K memory, etc.  But should I settle for a ][e, or spring
> for the ][gs?  I don't intend to do any more significant programming until
> I can get a personal computer with 1M RAM, C, and UNIX, so I don't need a
> developer's system.  Is the ][gs worth the price difference? (I can get a
> ][gs or replace my 79 Ford, but not both.  I use the ][+ more than the Ford.)
> Should I look into the Laser 128?  And what's a ][c+?

You know my opinion.

A IIc+ is a faster verison of the IIc.  It's faster than a IIgs at running
old Apple II programs.  This is probably the machine of choice for running
AppleWorks Classic.

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