Tabakal@UB.CC.UMICH.EDU (03/07/89)
> My personal advice regarding the Apple IIgs is this: if you NEED > an Apple II, by a IIc+. Otherwise, BUY A MAC!! > > Better yet, Jeremy, since you're at CMU, maybe you can get access > to a NeXT. > > For legal reasons, I need to spell this out: THESE ARE MY OPINIONS, > AND ARE NOT THE OPINIONS, OFFICIAL OR UNOFFICIAL, OF CLARIS OR ITS > DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. MINE, MINE, MINE, ALL MINE! In fact, these > are about as far from Calris's opinions as you can get. > -- > Any opinions you read here are only opinions in my opinion. > Jeff Erickson krazy@claris.com > "I'm so heppy I'm mizzabil!" -- Krazy Kat I think I'm going to be ill. If this is what we can expect from Claris employees, is it a wonder that support is falling fast from many software companies? I realize that this is not the official position of Claris, Inc., but it still hurts. Bad. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Todd A. Bakal IBM is not a necessary evil. U of M Apple User's Group IBM is not necessary. Ann Arbor, Michigan -- Ted Nelson Internet: Tabakal@ub.cc.umich.edu FTP: 35.1.1.43 UUCP: ...!uunet!ub.cc.umich.edu!tabakal BITnet: Tabakal@UMICHUB
krazy@claris.com (Jeff Erickson) (03/07/89)
From article <2677689@ub.cc.umich.edu>, by Tabakal@UB.CC.UMICH.EDU: >> My personal advice regarding the Apple IIgs is this: if you NEED >> an Apple II, by a IIc+. Otherwise, BUY A MAC!! > > I think I'm going to be ill. If this is what we can expect from Claris > employees, is it a wonder that support is falling fast from many software > companies? I realize that this is not the official position of Claris, > Inc., but it still hurts. Bad. I will rerereiterate this. Claris will continue to support the IIgs. More versions of AppleWorks GS are on the drawing board even as we post. Some very capable people are working on these revisions. I am not one of them, for obvious reasons. I do not have any influence over whether Claris supports the GS. I am officially a "software engineer", and I have no intention of becoming a manager at any point in the forseeable future. My opinion has been noted by my managers, and has been appropriately ignored. My advice is directly based on my perception of Apple's suport of the machine. I think it is Apple's actions that is causing the falling support for the GS among other software companies. I am not a typical Claris employee; I am by far the most extremely disappointed (I hope). -- Jeff Erickson \ Internet: krazy@claris.com AppleLink: Erickson4 Claris Corporation \ UUCP: {ames,apple,portal,sun,voder}!claris!krazy 415/960-2693 \________________________________________________________ ____________________/ "I'm so heppy I'm mizzabil!"
bird@ihlpf.ATT.COM (Walters) (03/07/89)
>> THESE ARE MY OPINIONS, >> AND ARE NOT THE OPINIONS, OFFICIAL OR UNOFFICIAL, OF CLARIS OR ITS >> DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. MINE, MINE, MINE, ALL MINE! In fact, these >> are about as far from Calris's opinions as you can get. > > > I think I'm going to be ill. If this is what we can expect from Claris > employees, is it a wonder that support is falling fast from many > software companies? I don't think you should become ill because one employee (who is probably out the door as we read this) is not loyal. In fact, you should be happy since he is probably not going to be around there long enough, in an official capacity, to hurt Apple. If someone from Sears, etc., spouted off - would you assume that was the official party line? I think not. I think his signature line says it all: "I'm so heppy I'm mizzabil!" -- Krazy Kat" -- Joe Walters att!ihlpf!bird IHP 1F-240 (312) 416-5356
krazy@claris.com (Jeff Erickson) (03/08/89)
From article <7889@ihlpf.ATT.COM>, by bird@ihlpf.ATT.COM (Walters): > >>> THESE ARE MY OPINIONS, >>> AND ARE NOT THE OPINIONS, OFFICIAL OR UNOFFICIAL, OF CLARIS OR ITS >>> DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. MINE, MINE, MINE, ALL MINE! In fact, these >>> are about as far from Calris's opinions as you can get. >> I think I'm going to be ill. If this is what we can expect from Claris >> employees, is it a wonder that support is falling fast from many >> software companies? > I don't think you should become ill because one employee (who is > probably out the door as we read this) is not loyal. In fact, you > should be happy since he is probably not going to be around there > long enough, in an official capacity, to hurt Apple. If someone > from Sears, etc., spouted off - would you assume that was the > official party line? I think not. Say what? I'm going to be around a long time. But I have no intention of attaining a position where I coud trash the Apple II even if I wanted to. I realize that there are plenty of people who love the machine, and as such, I want Apple to get its s--t together. I'm plenty loyal to Apple. I owuldn't program a "PC" if my life depended on it. I'm very happy working on and for the Macintosh. If anything, I intend to HELP Apple. > > I think his signature line says it all: > Me, too. That's why I picked it. -- Jeff Erickson \ Internet: krazy@claris.com AppleLink: Erickson4 Claris Corporation \ UUCP: {ames,apple,portal,sun,voder}!claris!krazy 415/960-2693 \________________________________________________________ ____________________/ "I'm so heppy I'm mizzabil!"
tmurphy@wpi.wpi.edu (Tom [Chris] Murphy) (03/09/89)
In article <7889@ihlpf.ATT.COM> bird@ihlpf.ATT.COM (Walters) writes: > >I don't think you should become ill because one employee (who is >probably out the door as we read this) is not loyal. In fact, you Don't you think this is a bit uncalled for? After all, Claris makes products for all Apple computers, not just the IIGS. So disliking a particular Apple product doesn't make him at all 'disloyal'. -- Thomas C. Murphy Worcester Polytechnic Institute CAD Lab Internet: tmurphy@zaphod.wpi.edu tmurphy@wpi.wpi.edu BITNET: TMURPHY@WPI CompuServe: 73766,130 "I drank what?" - Socrates
krazy@claris.com (Jeff Erickson) (03/10/89)
From article <1244@wpi.wpi.edu>, by tmurphy@wpi.wpi.edu (Tom [Chris] Murphy): > In article <7889@ihlpf.ATT.COM> bird@ihlpf.ATT.COM (Walters) writes: >> >>I don't think you should become ill because one employee (who is >>probably out the door as we read this) is not loyal. In fact, you > > Don't you think this is a bit uncalled for? After all, Claris makes > products for all Apple computers, not just the IIGS. So disliking a > particular Apple product doesn't make him at all 'disloyal'. Thanks, but I think he means loyal to the Apple II. In that respect, his accusation of my disloyalty is correct. -- Jeff Erickson \ Internet: krazy@claris.com AppleLink: Erickson4 Claris Corporation \ UUCP: {ames,apple,portal,sun,voder}!claris!krazy 415/960-2693 \________________________________________________________ ____________________/ "I'm so heppy I'm mizzabil!"
RXBROWN@UALR.BITNET ("MR.FANTASTIC") (03/10/89)
THOMAS C. MURPHY WRITES: >.... After all, Claris makes products for all Apple computers. not just >the IIGS. ....... Claris make one product for the GS. If there are others please point them out to me. The one they do make, they had to buy a company to get it. Robert Brown BITNET: RXBROWN@UALR APLE: ROBPHD
lwv@n8emr.UUCP (Larry W. Virden) (03/11/89)
Actually, Claris is currently selling two totally different programs for the Apple II line of computers. One is called Appleworks GS - it only runs on GS/OS - GS compatible computers. The other is Called Appleworks (oer perhaps by now Appleworks Classic) ; it runs on ALL apple II computers (well, with the exception of 48k Apple IIs without 80 column). -- Larry W. Virden 674 Falls Place, Reynoldsburg, OH 43068 (614) 864-8817 75046,606 (CIS) ; LVirden (ALPE) ; osu-cis!n8emr!lwv (UUCP) osu-cis!n8emr!lwv@TUT.CIS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (INTERNET) The world's not inherited from our parents, but borrowed from our children.
RXBROWN@UALR.BITNET ("MR.FANTASTIC") (03/13/89)
TO Larry Virden... If you could read I was talking about GS specific programs. Robert Brown