[comp.sys.apple] Apple Questions

sherin@linc.cis.upenn.edu (Steve Sherin) (07/11/87)

Thank you to everyone on the net who has been helping me
with my questions about Apple's memory layout, Pascal
RAM card drivers I/O space....


In reference to PCPI:
	I am expecting a BIOS listing for Applicard CP/M
SOON!  I am also waiting for some "stuff" from Franklin.
Anything pd will be shared.  Any questions I can answer
then will be responded to.  I am hoping to get more
traditional Apple software (graphics, etc.) running from CP/M.
This is possible now, but involves knowing about the Applicard's
use of 6502 memory to avoid clobbering anything delicate.



Does anyone have a list of the switches for the upper 16K
RAM/ROM?  How about a list of pokes for all the text/graphics
combinations? (I think I might have the latter, and I'll
post it if I find it.--short)

Has anyone configured MEX or IMP to use an Avatex 1200
modem?  How about a Pascal program/driver?



Thanks,
Steve


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Steve Sherin
University of Pennsylvania

From ARPA: sherin@linc.cis.upenn.edu

jsaker@ZEUS.UNL.EDU (Jamie Saker) (03/21/89)

Jeff asks...

>1. For those of you who shout "Apple II Forever": Why?
        
        I think you have a very legit point here - granted, no
        computer will last forever.  Nor should they - technology
        progresses, systems become more advanced.  Wasn't there an
        Apple I at one time?  And an Apple III, and a Lisa - and 
        they have become more or less a memory (I remember wanting
        an Apple III long ago...:-) )

        
>2. For those of you who would NEVER buy a Mac over an Apple II: Why not?
>        Do you know what's available for the Mac?

        Yes, I know of many excellent packages available for a Mac.
        I work with them extensivly at school for desktop publishing,
        communications, etc..  I also know that they are extremely 
        overpriced.  
        
        Why would we "never buy a Mac over an Apple II"?  Let me 
        answer that with a question:  Have you ever been to 
        a store where the service was SO terrible that you decided
        that NO MATTER what excellent products they may sell, because
        they treated you so poorly, you will NEVER go back.

        It's the basic laws of a service-oriented economy.  If Apple
        thinks that it is so special that it can ignore it's ORIGINAL
        customers that made it what it is today, then they will 
        soon become merely a memory, to be QUICKLY bypassed by
        other companies that do take care of its customer (NeXT? Amiga?).

        I think that we Apple II users realize that in this overinflated
        price - machine, we are also paying for:

        1. R&D (no no no... not for the newest Mac, for OUR machine.
            I'm SURE there are lots of things that can be done to
            improve the II series.  Apple, are you telling us that
            you are incabable of improving it any? You seem to have been
            saying that hardware-wise the past few years with the GS)

        2. Service:  This, I am proud to say, has been more than
           extrordinary - but by no part was it Apple's doing.
           My dealer (Computerworks, Bellevue NE) (which I am in no
           way related to) has spent many an hour supporting their
           customers.  When I had difficulties with GS/OS system disk
           crashing after having it for a week (drive just stopped reading
           after 5 seconds, bar kept moving, then just hung) they spent
           almost 2 hours working on it (then their system disks did it too)

        3. Hardware/System software.  Thank you for System Disk 4.0
           Now what about some hardware improvements?  I can't believe 
           ANY company would leave the future of it's line to a third
           party (Transwarp GS, etc).  This is a prime example of a 
           company ASKING people to go elsewhere.
      
>3. For those who hate the desktop/windows/mice enviroment: Why?  Note that
>        this question really is for two groups of people: those who hate
>        the interface as it is implemented on the GS, and those who hate
>        the whole IDEA of the desktop interface.

        O.K... I'm a WIMP.  

>4. For everybody: What computer would you buy if the Apple II were killed
>        off, and you HAD to buy a new machine.  Why?  How does the choice
>        of computer depend on the reason for buying it.

        Maybe a Sun Workstation?:-)  It just seems to me that if a 
        corporation is "too good to support the people that made 
        them what they are" then they don't need us nor our dollars.
        Actually, if that's their attitude, (which I'm afraid MANY of
        us are coming to believe)  they don't need to be in business at
        all.  
        
        I get the feeling it's the old "We are a REAL business now... we
        sell Macs, we don't want to be embarressed that we were once a
        home computer company.  Either buy a Mac or go away..."

        Tell me that, and I will.        

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