[comp.sys.apple] GS development environments

AWCTTYPA@UIAMVS.BITNET ("David A. Lyons") (03/21/89)

>Date:         Sun, 19 Mar 89 12:34:03 CST
>From:         "Jeremy G. Mereness" <jm7e+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU>
>Subject:      Re: The Nifty //GS and Apple Support
>
>One thing... I understand that the GS is a pain to write anything big
>on, but much of that is because there is as yet not that many good
>development systems for it. GS/OS is still buggy, APW is buggy, and
>the C language isn't very good either.

Hang on....

(1) How did you decide that GS/OS is "buggy"?  How come I'm not
having problems with it?  There are a lot of buggy applications
whose bugs become more obvious under GS/OS, but that doesn't make
GS/OS buggy itself.

(2) APW could certainly stand some improvement, but it gets the job
done.  We have Tim Swihart's word (in the APDAlog that came out a
couple months ago) that the improvements _are_ on the way, by the
way.

(3)  I assume you are referring to APW C, not to C in general.  APW
C has a worse reputation than it deserves.  Its biggest problem is
speed, but it works.

>[...] If decent development systems were made for the GS (on the same
>level as ThinkC, TurboC and Turbo Pascal) then developers would not
>be complaining as much. But not even Apple has done this, and as with
>the Mac, they have to make the first move.

WHY does Apple need to make the first move?

Anyway, have you seen TML Pascal (standalone version) and Merlin
16+?  Both of these are perfectly usable.  I wrote DIcEd in 4200
lines of TML Pascal.

ORCA/C is on the way, too.

By the way, I would certainly not describe writing DIcEd as "a
pain," although it isn't all that big, either (under 100K).

>jeremy mereness
>jm7e+@andrew.cmu.edu (arpa)

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