mattd@Apple.COM (Matt Deatherage) (03/18/89)
I thank you all for your kind comments. I'll fix my signature to show
more or less where I am sometime later today.
Robert Halloran writes about three AppleShare problems he's having. I can
attempt to explain two of them.
1. "The network says it requires an enhanced IIe, but the card IS present
and the light IS on!"
(these aren't real quotes; y'know)
"Enhanced" doesn't mean "it has an Apple IIe Workstation Card" in it. It
means "It has 1985 ROMs instead of 1982 ROMs." To check this, simply boot
the machine in question. Older, unenhanced IIe's will say "Apple ][" at
the top of the screen, while newer, enhanced models say "Apple //e".
3. Quick power cycles cause the machine to go bananas.
Sounds to me like some of the RAM in that system doesn't power down very
quickly, so some of the system still thinks that certain things which aren't
in memory any more actually are still in memory. Try swapping the memory
card in that system with one in another system. If the problem follows the
card from system to system, take it to a dealer.
As for the one about not being able to find the server, I have no useful
suggestions off-hand.
As for the Sourceror's Apprentice: not only is Ross publishing this,
he's also publishing ZNews, the ZBasic newsletter for Apple II owners.
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=============================================================================kamath@reed.UUCP (Sean Kamath) (03/23/89)
In article <27478@apple.Apple.COM> mattd@Apple.COM (Matt Deatherage) writes: >3. Quick power cycles cause the machine to go bananas. > >Sounds to me like some of the RAM in that system doesn't power down very >quickly, so some of the system still thinks that certain things which aren't >in memory any more actually are still in memory. Try swapping the memory >card in that system with one in another system. If the problem follows the >card from system to system, take it to a dealer. >Matt Deatherage, Apple Computer, Inc. | "The opinions expressed in this tome (Matt, you have to learn how to get your editor to pu tthe little >'s in there for you. . :-)) Not quite right. In fact, I'll bet it has nothing really to do with the RAM. It's the shutdown time of the 6502 (and, I assume, the 65816). When you turn on the chip, it must be shuttled through the reset cycle, which is controlled by a capacitor. Once the machine is "up" then that cap sits there all happy. when the machine "dies" the cap starts to discharge, and when the power get's snapped on fast enough, it hasn't discharged enough to make the chip reset, and so the chip thinks (maybe, maybe not, depends on a lot of things) that it's either in some flaky mode or executing code. Since Ram get wasted about 15 -40 ns after shutdown, RAM is wasted, and the chip is executing or managing garbage. Also, the internal RAM of the chip (the registers, kids) are flaked out. Now, I may be wrong. In that case, I feel like a flake. Sean kamath -- UUCP: {decvax allegra ucbcad ucbvax hplabs}!tektronix!reed!kamath CSNET: reed!kamath@Tektronix.CSNET || BITNET: kamath@reed.BITNET ARPA: kamath%reed.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu US Snail: 3934 SE Boise, Portland, OR 97202-3126 (I hate 4 line .sigs!)