Geva_Apple-Maniac_Patz@cup.portal.com (04/02/89)
Hi, I own a small GBBS system running off an Apple //c with a UniDisk 3.5 Being (at present) a small BBS, it managed to fit on one disk for the better part of a year. Unfortunately, it has now grown to the point where it will no longer fit onto one disk, and I am forced to start looking for a hard drive. Unfortunately, the only hard drive that I have managed to locate that is //c-compatible is a Chinook unit, which costs in excess of $700 for a 20-megabyte system. Being a non-profit (read: small loss) BBS, I simply can't afford this. I've given up on sponsorship, as local companies seem totally apathetic to BBS's, and it goes against my principles to charge money for a BBS. This is NOT a begging letter for sponsorships [although any such offers will be greatly appreciated ;-)]. What I do need to find, though, is a somewhat cheaper hard disk for my //c. Does anyone 'out there' know of another make of hard disk for the //c? I know that ProApp used to make something to that effect, but it (the drive AND the company) seems to have vanished. Or, perhaps, does anyone have a second-hand unit that they would be prepared to offload at a rock-bottom price? %%%% Geva %%%
mackay@iisat.UUCP (Daniel MacKay) (04/04/89)
In article <16587@cup.portal.com>, Geva_Apple-Maniac_Patz@cup.portal.com writes: > > I own a small GBBS system running off an Apple //c with a UniDisk 3.5 > I am forced to start > looking for a hard drive. I recently bought an old Quark 10m drive for 400$Cdn; if you can find one it may keep you happy for a while. The quarks are kind of neat; they work with the //e (daisy-chained into the Disk ][ controller), the //c, the Mac (on the serial port) and even the Apple /// (daisy chained to the Disk /// external port). They have two three-way switches on the back, and you tell the machine what computer it's hooked up to. I was interested because I have a friend with a /// who needs a hard disk occasionally, a Mac buddy who has it most of the time, and there are times when I want it on my //c. The Quark hard disk can be partitioned into SOS, Prodos, Mac, // CP/M, and (I think) ][ DOS volumes. It comes in 10M & 20M sizes. None of the machines boots from the Quark; it comes with a copyable/ configurable startup disk for each machine, which, in Prodos' case, pops a little driver into Prodos on the way up. Sun Remarketing is selling the Quarks refurbished but in the catalog I only see the 20M version for 895$US, which is a bit outrageous. You may want to call them and talk them into a deal, at 1-800-821-3221. -- +---------+ IIS Public Usenet | _ | From the Halifax, Nova Scotia | (_)===| Disk of ... Canada | | Daniel mackay@iisat.UUCP +---------+ ...{utai,uunet,watmath}!dalcs!iisat!mackay
shark@cisunx.UUCP (Shark) (04/07/89)
Conserning the APPLE HARD DISK topic. How hard would it be to buy a 10MB IBM compat. HD ($79.00 new), Bulid a interface card for that APPLE and make it compatible with software drivers on the market and USE IT. I think it's ridiculous to pay $595.00 for a refurbished 10 MB HD for the APPLE. Any Ideas???? (are the APPLE HD (just the HD) much different from an IBM model?) ______________________________________________________________________________ "I think todays phisicists| "The FORCE will be | Filip Gieszczykiewicz are the ones who slow down| with you.. always."| Bitnet: shark@pittvms the advancement of out | - Star Wars | net: shark@unix.cis.pi civilization..", ME. (me) | "It *IS* with me..."| ttsburgh.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ctuel@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Cliff Tuel) (04/08/89)
shark@unix.cis.pittsburgh.edu (Shark) said... | | Conserning the APPLE HARD DISK topic. How hard would it be to | buy a 10MB IBM compat. HD ($79.00 new), Bulid a interface card | for that APPLE and make it compatible with software drivers on | the market and USE IT. I think it's ridiculous to pay $595.00 | for a refurbished 10 MB HD for the APPLE. In 1988 Perlin Electronics (which may or may not still be around) made a card for $195 that let you use most IBM hard disks in an Apple //. There was a discussion on this approach in the August, 1988 issue of Open-Apple. Some quotes: "We have received two letters from readers who have purchased this controller [from Perlin] -- the opinions ranged from negative to extremely negative. Complaints revolved around the difficulty of getting the setup to work and on a lack of support from Perlin." So, it CAN be done but it isn't easy. And while we're on the subject of hard disks, this was on the next page of the same Open-Apple: "I know you can notch a floppy disk and flip it over to get an extra 143K. Can I notch my Sider hard drive, flip it over, and get another 10 megabytes of storage? Doug Smith Long Beach, NC I had Dennis try it. He reports he got 10 megabytes _less_ storage." Just one of the many reasons I love that rag! 2:-) -- ___________________________ ------------------------- _ . ___ -------------------------- ctuel@polyslo.CalPoly.edu (_ |_ l F F | (_) E |_ ucbvax!voder!polyslo!ctuel -------------------------___________________________--------------------------
unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) (04/09/89)
In article <17391@cisunx.UUCP> shark@unix.cis.pittsburgh.edu (Shark) writes: > > > > Conserning the APPLE HARD DISK topic. How hard would it be to > buy a 10MB IBM compat. HD ($79.00 new), Bulid a interface card > for that APPLE and make it compatible with software drivers on > the market and USE IT. I think it's ridiculous to pay $595.00 > for a refurbished 10 MB HD for the APPLE. > > > Any Ideas???? (are the APPLE HD (just the HD) much different > from an IBM model?) > In this month's A+ [May 1989], there is an article on making a "homebrew hard drive." It seems to me to be a very informative article... It's probably what I'll do when I get a harddrive... It's interesting, their homebrew 60mb drive is $711 (or $11.85 per megabyte)...An APPLE 40 megabyte drive is $1508 (or $37.70 per megabyte).. And the homebrew drive -is- a SCSI drive...Price obviously includes case, cables, fan, etc... -unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu (The Unknown User)
christer@zeus.cs.umu.se (Christer Ericson) (04/10/89)
In article <10059@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU> ctuel@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Cliff Tuel) writes: >So, it CAN be done but it isn't easy. And while we're on the subject of >hard disks, this was on the next page of the same Open-Apple: > > "I know you can notch a floppy disk and flip it over to get > an extra 143K. Can I notch my Sider hard drive, flip it over, > and get another 10 megabytes of storage? > > Doug Smith > Long Beach, NC > It doesn't surprise me that the technical editor (whatever his name may be) of InCider thinks that an Apple disk has 143K, but that Open-Apple should fall into the same trap is frightening... What is happening to the Apple world? Didn't we use to have the most knowledgeable users? /Christer Christer Ericson / Inst. for Information Processing / University of Umeaa / S-90187 UMEAA / Sweden / Internet: christer@cs.umu.se
mikes@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu (Michael Steele) (04/12/89)
In article <17391@cisunx.UUCP> shark@unix.cis.pittsburgh.edu (Shark) writes: > > Conserning the APPLE HARD DISK topic. How hard would it be to > buy a 10MB IBM compat. HD ($79.00 new), Bulid a interface card > for that APPLE and make it compatible with software drivers on > the market and USE IT. I think it's ridiculous to pay $595.00 > for a refurbished 10 MB HD for the APPLE. For that price you could build your own 40meg SCSI drive. I'm looking to build a 60meg SCSI drive for around $650. Has anyone done this? I was wondering whether I should get a 28ms drive or a 39ms drive? Is the addition $100 going to be worth the access time? I think not, but was wanting some more input. For more info look at the March issue of A+. Michael Steele mikes@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu -- Michael Steele mikes@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu mikes@ncsuctix.ncsuvx.ncsu.edu netoprms@ncsuvm.bitnet