tomj@pro-pac.cts.com (Tom Jenkins) (04/15/89)
You know, sometime in the past there was talk about the "old" P8 Apple II Desktop...I found it on an old disk, booted it up and much to my amazement, the black and white Apple II Desktop was infinitely faster than the newer Finder as found on system disk 4.0 (GSOS). Why is it then, that Apple cannot write a Finder program under P16 that is as fast as the old P8 Desktop? Why not? Is it the color? Is it GSOS? Is a cheatah really faster that a locomotive??? I routinely use the old (or read - newest) Launcher found on the 3.x system disk because the newer Finder is slow opening up and closing windows. And no, I can't see spending $350 (TWGS) just to make the darned windows work properly altough I will anyway because speeding up the IIgs will keep me from going outsane (insane?) Come on guys, can't we make the new Finder just as fast as the old Desktop? And if not, how can I install the Apple II Desktop on the GSOS disk to make it boot into it? Would it go into the System folder - renamed as "Start" with a subdirectory labeled "Desktop" with it's desk accys? HELP! And another thing! Is there any other 3 1/2 inch disk drive that will work in the Apple IIc other than the UniDisk 3.5? Why can't I take a Macintosh 3.5 incher and "hack" into working? Isn't the Unidisk a "dumb" drive? If not, am I stuck with the UniDisk? Anyone wanna get rid of their Undisk? Huh? So there... -- UUCP: {nosc, cacilj, sdcsvax, hplabs!hp-sdd, sun.COM} ...!crash!pnet01!pro-nsfmat!pro-pac!tomj ARPA: crash!pnet01!pro-nsfmat!pro-pac!tomj@nosc.MIL INET: tomj@pro-pac.CTS.COM - BITNET: pro-pac.UUCP!tomj@PSUVAX1
mattd@Apple.COM (Matt Deatherage) (04/16/89)
In article <8904150937.AA12944@crash.cts.com> pnet01!pro-simasd!pro-nsfmat!pro-pac!tomj@nosc.mil writes: >You know, sometime in the past there was talk about the "old" P8 Apple II >Desktop...I found it on an old disk, booted it up and much to my >amazement, the black and white Apple II Desktop was infinitely faster than >the newer Finder as found on system disk 4.0 (GSOS). > >Why is it then, that Apple cannot write a Finder program under P16 that is >as fast as the old P8 Desktop? Why not? Is it the color? Is it GSOS? >Is a cheatah really faster that a locomotive??? > >I routinely use the old (or read - newest) Launcher found on the 3.x >system disk because the newer Finder is slow opening up and closing >windows. And no, I can't see spending $350 (TWGS) just to make the darned >windows work properly altough I will anyway because speeding up the IIgs >will keep me from going outsane (insane?) > >Come on guys, can't we make the new Finder just as fast as the old >Desktop? And if not, how can I install the Apple II Desktop on the GSOS >disk to make it boot into it? Would it go into the System folder - >renamed as "Start" with a subdirectory labeled "Desktop" with it's desk >accys? HELP! > When asking for answers from people at Apple, it's usually not a good idea to start the message with the insinuation that they screwed up. It tends to make people defensive. As has been stated many times before, it's not surprising that the Desktop can seem to run twice as fast as the Finder, since the Finder is in 32K Super Hi-Res graphics and the Desktop is in 16K Double Hi-Res. For some reason, manipulating twice as much graphics data takes twice as long. Top computer scientists are working on theories for this even as we speak. :-) >And another thing! Is there any other 3 1/2 inch disk drive that will >work in the Apple IIc other than the UniDisk 3.5? Why can't I take a >Macintosh 3.5 incher and "hack" into working? Isn't the Unidisk a "dumb" >drive? If not, am I stuck with the UniDisk? Anyone wanna get rid of >their Undisk? Huh? > Exactly backwards: The UniDisk is a "smart" drive; the IIc (before the IIc Plus) didn't contain the firmware to work with "dumb" drives like the Apple 3.5 Drive. >So there... > <nyah yourself> >UUCP: {nosc, cacilj, sdcsvax, hplabs!hp-sdd, sun.COM} > ...!crash!pnet01!pro-nsfmat!pro-pac!tomj >ARPA: crash!pnet01!pro-nsfmat!pro-pac!tomj@nosc.MIL >INET: tomj@pro-pac.CTS.COM - BITNET: pro-pac.UUCP!tomj@PSUVAX1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Deatherage, Apple Computer, Inc. | "The opinions expressed in this tome Send PERSONAL mail ONLY (please) to: | should not be construed to imply that AppleLink PE: Matt DTS GEnie: AIIDTS | Apple Computer, Inc., or any of its CompuServe: 76703,3030 | subsidiaries, in whole or in part, Usenet: mattd@apple.com | have any opinion on any subject." UUCP: (other stuff)!ames!apple!mattd | "So there." -----------------------------------------------------------------------------