robert_macausland@brains.UUCP (Robert MacAusland) (04/26/89)
Re:The Apple ][GS battery: I was wondering why the GS would have the control panel settings backed u p by a battery and not an EEPROM which I assume wold hold the data longer and wouldn't need to be replaced... -- -===------===- From Robert Macausland at: -==-==----==-==- Cerebral Cortex BBS -==-------==------ (902)462-7245 3/1200 8N1 -Gatewayed to Usenet- -==-==----==-==- 24h/7d -===------===- {uunet, utai, watmath}!dalcs!iisat!brains!robert_macausland
farrier@Apple.COM (Cary Farrier) (04/28/89)
In article <4473@brains.UUCP> robert_macausland%brains@iisat.UUCP writes: >Re:The Apple ][GS battery: > I was wondering why the GS would have the control panel settings backed u p >by a battery and not an EEPROM which I assume wold hold the data longer and >wouldn't need to be replaced... I'm not sure, but I think that it is cheaper to use a battery. Cary Farrier -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message does in no way reflect the views or opinions of | | any organization. In fact, they illustrate just how | | disorganized things really are. | +----------------------------------------------------------------+
KMILES@CC.USU.EDU ("Kurt Miles, VAX Consultant") (04/29/89)
> I was wondering why the GS would have the control panel settings backed u p >by a battery and not an EEPROM which I assume wold hold the data longer and >wouldn't need to be replaced... If they did that, they couldn't charge you an arm and a leg to replace the battery, now, could they? # include <std.disclaimer> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ___ ____ ____ ____ _ | \ | \ /\ / \ / \ |\ | GreyMan ----> and the <---- | \ |___/ / \ | ___ | | | \ | / \ | / | \ /====\ | | | | | \ | |___/ | \ / \ \____/| \____/ | \| Kurt Miles ..... remember, sometimes the DRAGON wins! KMILES@USU (on bitnet) ------ SLT6X@USU (bitnet) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
dcw@athena.mit.edu (David C. Whitney) (04/30/89)
In article <4473@brains.UUCP> robert_macausland%brains@iisat.UUCP writes: >Re:The Apple ][GS battery: > I was wondering why the GS would have the control panel settings backed u p >by a battery and not an EEPROM which I assume wold hold the data longer and >wouldn't need to be replaced... Well, for one thing, EEPROMs take a *long* time to write to - upwards of 100 milliseconds or so. Compare that to the 150 nanoseconds it takes to write to RAM. The computer would have to come to a complete halt (well, almost) just to change the control panel. The BIG loss with EEPROMs is they can only write a hundred or so times. Then they go on the fritz. If you're the type who sets his machine and that's it, then EEPROMs wouldn't be a bad idea. But it would be costly for those who like to change things all the time as they'd have to change the chips every now and then. Dave Whitney A junior in Computer Science at MIT dcw@athena.mit.edu ...!bloom-beacon!athena.mit.edu!dcw dcw@goldilocks.mit.edu I wrote Z-Link & BinSCII. Send me bug reports. I use a //GS. Send me Tech Info. "This is MIT. Collect and 3rd party calls will not be accepted at this number."
matthew@sunpix.UUCP ( Sun NCAA) (05/01/89)
In article <4473@brains.UUCP|, Robert MacAusland writes: | Re:The Apple ][GS battery: | I was wondering why the GS would have the control panel settings backed up | by a battery and not an EEPROM which I assume wold hold the data longer and | wouldn't need to be replaced... | -- EEPROMS generally have a slo-o-w-w write time, and relatively small rewrite capability. You'd probably have to replace a EEPROM before you'd have to replace the current //gs battery. -- Matthew Lee Stier | Sun Microsystems --- RTP, NC 27709-3447 | "Wisconsin Escapee" uucp: { sun, mcnc!rti }!sunpix!matthew | phone: (919) 469-8300 fax: (919) 460-8355 |