sysop@pro-generic.cts.com (Matthew Montano) (05/01/89)
Unless I am severly off course, the //x project that existed in late '83-84 (rumor) never became the //gs. The actual designs were quite different, physically the approaches could of been quite similar, but the idealogical goal with the machine was very different. The //gs was (obviously) designed to be a color mac. The //x has almost become the //c+, where the //x was a //e with 4mhz clock, memory to 1 meg internally, 3.5 drives standard, and an imporved text mode. The //gs is quite different. I believe it was last week that Apple Canada at least sent a information packet about the Apple ROM chips that exist in the Macintosh. In summary: If it was discovered that Macintosh ROM chips were sold or given in an unauthorized deal, you can use your license as an authorized dealer. Dealers cannot sell ROM chips that they might have in stock, they can't even give them away. Looks like a small set back to the A-Max project (Amiga 2000 macintosh emulator that really kicks!) and the Spectre project (ST piece of junk like the A-max). If the Apple // was to die, so would the Macintosh. Can you imagine Apple without the //? They can't.. so they won't/ Matthew ============================================================================== ProLine: sysop@pro-generic |DDN :crash!pnet01!pro-generic!sysop InterNet:sysop@pro-generic.cts.com|UUCP: hplabs!crash!pnet01!pro-generic!root ==============================================================================
shawn@pnet51.cts.com (Shawn Stanley) (05/02/89)
sysop@pro-generic.cts.com (Matthew Montano) writes: > Unless I am severly off course, the //x project that existed in late '83-84 >(rumor) never became the //gs. The actual designs were quite different, >physically the approaches could of been quite similar, but the idealogical >goal with the machine was very different. The //gs was (obviously) designed to >be a color mac. The //x has almost become the //c+, where the //x was a //e >with 4mhz clock, memory to 1 meg internally, 3.5 drives standard, and an >imporved text mode. The //gs is quite different. "Is" and "was". You sound very sure of yourself! Did you have access to an "official" leak when the rest of us were hearing rumors? If this is the case, I'd be willing to hear (e-mail, of course) what you think is going on these days... :-) UUCP: {uunet!rosevax, amdahl!bungia, chinet, killer}!orbit!pnet51!shawn INET: shawn@pnet51.cts.com
SEWALL@UCONNVM.BITNET (Murph Sewall) (05/03/89)
> Unless I am severly off course, the //x project that existed in late '83-84 >(rumor) never became the //gs. The actual designs were quite different, >physically the approaches could of been quite similar, but the idealogical >goal with the machine was very different. The //gs was (obviously) designed to The rumor reported in the May '84 Vaporware column said only that Apple was working on an Apple 2 that would be built around the 65816. By whatever combination of failed, partly successful, and successful prototypes, the IIgs WAS what (ultimately) emerged from the lab. >be a color mac. The //x has almost become the //c+, where the //x was a //e >with 4mhz clock, memory to 1 meg internally, 3.5 drives standard, and an >imporved text mode. The //gs is quite different. Perhaps Apple's Mac mavens would feel less threatened if they had permitted that early concept to become reality instead of trying to kill the whole idea altogther, losing, and ending up facing a machine that is (potentially) a "Mac killer(?)" - at least in their nightmares. > I believe it was last week that Apple Canada at least sent a information >packet about the Apple ROM chips that exist in the Macintosh. In summary: If >it was discovered that Macintosh ROM chips were sold or given in an >unauthorized deal, you can use your license as an authorized dealer. Dealers >cannot sell ROM chips that they might have in stock, they can't even give them >away. Looks like a small set back to the A-Max project (Amiga 2000 macintosh True. Selling Apple ROMs, and many other Apple components, as parts has ALWAYS been grounds for loss of franchise. It is, however, a civil not a criminal problem - to wit, penalties are only imposed on those who get caught. Apparently, someone (evidently more than one) HAS been selling Macintosh ROMs (supposedly from repair inventories but possibly from 'trade-ins'). >emulator that really kicks!) and the Spectre project (ST piece of junk like >the A-max). The clones supply problem may be solved if rumors are true. Chips & Technologies is rumored to be awaiting only final clearance from their lawyers on "legal" Mac ROM clone chipsets. >If the Apple // was to die, so would the Macintosh. Can you imagine Apple >without the //? They can't.. so they won't/ I CAN imagine Apple without the Macintosh :-) A 65832 Apple 2 with a Mac SE-030 emulation (in software :-))))) Murph Sewall Vaporware? ---> [Gary Larson returns 1/1/90] Prof. of Marketing Sewall@UConnVM.BITNET Business School sewall%uconnvm.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu [INTERNET] U of Connecticut {psuvax1 or mcvax }!UCONNVM.BITNET!SEWALL [UUCP] (203) 486-5246 [FAX] (203) 486-2489 [PHONE] 41 49N 72 15W [ICBM] -+- I don't speak for my employer, though I frequently wish that I could (subject to change without notice; void where prohibited)