[comp.sys.apple] Ethertalk vs. Localtalk

REWING@TRINCC.BITNET (05/05/89)

Personally, moving from Localtalk to Ethertalk on *any* Mac that I've
tried has yielded wonderful benefits.  The obvious one is right in
front of me.  I've been doing file transfers between my Mac IIx on
Ethernet, and a SE/30 on localtalk, using the Appleshare file server
(also on Ethernet) as a go between.  The difference is usually the
IIx trouncing the SE/30 by a wide margin.  Your mileage may vary,
especially on some benchmarks I've seen, but I generally consider
it worth it.

This topic reminds me of a project that I've been trying to start with
the help of some software vendors.  Since noone (that i know of) is
going to make an Ethertalk card for the IIgs anytime soon, I was
thinking of writing a SCSI Ethertalk driver that would use the Apple
II SCSI card, and connect either to a Kinectics EtherSC, or a Dove
Ethernet box.  Would any of you guys see a need for this, outside of
me wanting Ethertalk on my IIgs?  Comments, suggestions or flames
may be sent to the bboard, so I can decide the worthiness of this
project.  Thanks.

--Rick Ewing
  Apple Atlanta

jm7e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jeremy G. Mereness) (05/05/89)

Rick, I think this idea would be wonderful.

Of Course, I would like to see a SCSI port built into the GS, a card
like you suggest would be really nice. 

Anywhere there happen to be Ethernet/Localtalk networks, the Apple
//GS would be extremely useful. Further, the more stuff that is
archived on FTP sites, the more the need to directly access the stuff
in favor of logging in to a workstation or a mainframe and having to
download by a conventional modem. 

I am trying to port NTSA Telnet over to the GS. This is a project that
I will begin in earnest over the summer, and I have the sources here
at CMU to look at. However, we both know what kind of performance
increase would be experienced if the GS could access Ethertalk
directly. 

and once you login to a remote host with telnet instead of a dialup,
there is no going back. 19200 baud makes 2400 seem intolerable. 


jerry
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tsouth@pro-pac.cts.com (System Administrator) (05/09/89)

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Rick,

        I would be highly interested in learning more about your
Ethernet project and the possibilities of purchasing such a card
system to interconnect some of my Unix and IBM machines directly
to an Apple //e or IIgs.  Why?  Because I can envision running a
pnet system on a future 386 machine and connecting one of the
ports directly up to an Apple system running Proline and allowing
people to log into either side, or communicate through either side.
Please post more on your intentions, or what is possibly available
as you find out or make it.

Todd South

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