[net.movies] Hara Kiri

logo (02/19/83)

'Harakiri' is an older black and white Samurai film.  It is incredbile.
One is lead thru a serious of emotions, attitudes, and allegences.  The
film is impactful.  I strongly reccommend it.

The story is about the life circumstances for a couple of ronin (unemployed
samurai).  There are a few places that would be problematic for those who
are squeemish about blood.

A general comment about samurai films, for those who haven't been:
Although there is often quite a bit of death and fighting, the violence
is usually non-explicit.  No arms falling off, often no blood stains on
clothing.  The camera is cut away just before the blow lands.  This may
be less true of B grade samurai films and of martial arts films.  Can
anybody comment one way or the other on that?

I also reccommend 'Kagemusha - The Shadow Warrior', a relatively recent
film by Kurasawa.

  David (Reisner)
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nrh (02/27/83)

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inmet!nrh    Feb 25 12:22:00 1983

A long-time Samurai enthusiast, I'm in a position to comment about the
gore level of these films.

There's no simple rule for determining in advance how bloody a particular
film will be.  "Yojimbo", Kurosawa's CLASSIC standard-setting Samurai
film, is quite bloody in three places (that I recall) but this is done
for effect, and the three scenes (a dog carrying a severed hand, a
man who is the victim of a violent beating, and the blood oozing out
from under a fatally-wounded samurai) would be hard to eliminate without
weakening the film's impact or timing.

On the other hand, this is pretty routine stuff for the high-quality
and very enjoyably campy Zatoichi series.

Both of these productions are mild indeed compared to the ludicrously-
violent "Lightning Swords of Death" series.  Spraying blood and severed
limbs are pretty routine.  In this series, the two main characters
slaughter at least one medium-sized army (perhaps 100 people) per film.
Amusing side note:  The "Swords of Death" series is sometimes released as
"Babycarriage in the land of Demons", "Babycarriage in the Snow", etc.
The reference is to the lethally-equipped babycarriage used by the hero 
to carry his young son.

I believe it was in this series that I saw the depiction of a man being
sliced in half (lengthwise).  Fortunately,  this was a long shot
with no detail visible from the shooting distance.

On the other hand, I've never seen a Samurai film as grotesque as 
"Alien" or "The Thing".  The severed limbs in Samurai films tend to 
be pretty cleanly severed.  There is little, if any, affectionate
dwelling on the insides of people's abdomens.   There are 
violent and painful deaths, but the tend to last only a moment.

Believe it or not, I'm a fairly squeamish person.  
I do enjoy these films, but less for the gore than for the 
combination of action/adventure, subtle plot, wonderful camerawork,
and the hints of Japanese culture (about as much, I suspect,
as the hints of western culture that creep into a Western).

mclure (03/09/83)

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sri-unix!mclure    Feb 24 23:55:00 1983

Can someone help identify the following movie? I saw it as a youngster
and it has stuck in my mind ever since.

A skilled samurai has a good friend who is murdered at the hands of the
head of a samuari "school" as punishment for something.  The hero goes
to the school to seek revenge.  The resulting battle of this one man
against the whole school, winding in and out of the corridors, smashing
through rice-paper screens out through the court-yard is amazing.
Eventually the hero succumbs but only after dispatching dozens of
lesser samuari.

	Stuart
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mclure@SRI-UNIX.ARPA (09/18/84)

    This is an advertisment for my favorite Samurai movie.

    It is showing Tuesday & Wednesday of this week at the New Varsity
at 7:30pm.  The name is "Hara Kiri". Below is the description, etc.,
from the New Varsity poster.

	Japan 1962, Special Jury Prize at Cannes, 1963,
		Subtitled, No Rating

   	Directed by Masaki Kobayashi.
	Stars Tatsuya Nakadai, Akira Ishihama, Shima Iwashita.

	A young unemployed samurai requests permission to commit
	seppuku on the grounds of a wealthy household,  hoping to
	be given some money or a job. Instead, he is ruthlessly
	forced to carry through with the suicide. His father-in-law
	comes to avenge the young man's death, leading to a breath-
	taking climax of swordplay.

    If this is the movie I think it is (I saw one matching this
description years ago), it is emotionally overwhelming, more so than
the various Kurosawa-directed movies and other Samurai that I've seen,
at least to me.

    If you're a Samurai fan, or don't like Samurai in general, give
this one a shot. You might come out of the theatre exhausted as we all
did at the end of the original Star Wars!

	Stuart