bsherman@pro-exchange.cts.com (Bob Sherman) (05/11/89)
in article <8905081017.AA24337@crash.cts.com>, orcus@pro-lep.cts.com (Brian Gr! > > Well, Apple did it again, they failed to say yes or no about a GS+, and now I > have to wait another 4 months to see if I should but a Transwarp or not. Wh! > is Apple's deal? I mean if there is no GS+, then why dont they just say so, > it makes it look like there is one, but.... Since Apple has NEVER said there was a GS+, why should they have to say there is not going to be a GS+? The so called GS+ began as a figment of someone's mind and went from there, Never once did Apple encourage that rumor. The only thing Apple did say was when John Sculley said there would be an addition to the Apple II line in 12 to 18 months from the time he made the announcement (and that was last September), which by my book was much less than 12 months ago. What else do they really need to say. It was said plain and clear what and when to expect something, so let's give him the benifit of the doubt. When 18 months has come and gone, then and only then do they owe us some public word on why their CEO lied to the public, if in fact they do not live upto his word, and no-where in his statement did he ever say what was going to be would be named the GS+. Not only was I there when he made his statement, It is also on a video tape released by Apple to all of it's user groups across the country. Somehow I feel that Apple knows we expect them to carry out the promise made by Sculley, they got the word, now we must wait to see what they do with their "Discovery". (I hope the power does not blink again in Atlanta Rick ;-). UUCP: crash!pro-exchange!bsherman ARPA: crash!pro-exchange!bsherman@nosc.mil INET: bsherman@pro-exchange.cts.com
SEWALL@UCONNVM.BITNET (Murph Sewall) (05/12/89)
>Since Apple has NEVER said there was a GS+, why should they have to say there John Sculley was quoted more than a year ago as saying there WOULD be an upgrade to the IIgs (but NOT in 1988.. hint, hint). The IIgs+ is as good a 'name' as any for the product referred to. >The so called GS+ began as a figment of someone's mind and went from there, >Never once did Apple encourage that rumor. At least some Apple developers HAVE had prototypes of Apple 2 type machines not on the market (and not necessarily ever intended to be marketed). There's better than minimal evidence (including a private note from an Apple engineer <protected source>) that the gs+ isn't entirely a figment (although many, if not most, of the details distributed by bbs's last year were "pie-in-the-sky") >The only thing Apple did say was when John Sculley said there would be >an addition to the Apple II line in 12 to 18 months from the time he made >the announcement (and that was last September), which by my book was much >less than 12 months ago. What else do they really need to say. It was Last September was a rehash of statements made much earlier (before the May '88 Applefest to squash rumors that a new IIgs might be introduced in the Spring of '88). >said plain and clear what and when to expect something, so let's give >him the benifit of the doubt. When 18 months has come and gone, then and >only then do they owe us some public word on why their CEO lied to >the public, if in fact they do not live upto his word, and no-where in >his statement did he ever say what was going to be would be named >the GS+. The name's beside the point. You ARE correct that there never was a basis for believing an upgraded IIgs would be announced at the Boston AppleFest. The expectation created by Sculley's comments, almost from the earliest of them, has been Sep '89 (reported in the Vaporware column so long ago I don't even want to bother digging into back issues for it). Murph Sewall Vaporware? ---> [Gary Larson returns 1/1/90] Prof. of Marketing Sewall@UConnVM.BITNET Business School sewall%uconnvm.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu [INTERNET] U of Connecticut {psuvax1 or mcvax }!UCONNVM.BITNET!SEWALL [UUCP] (203) 486-5246 [FAX] (203) 486-2489 [PHONE] 41 49N 72 15W [ICBM] -+- I don't speak for my employer, though I frequently wish that I could (subject to change without notice; void where prohibited)
orcus@pro-lep.cts.com (Brian Greenstone) (05/20/89)
Network Comment: to #3451 by pnet01!crash!pro-exchange.cts.com!bsherman Also, 2 years ago, a GS+ was mentioned in their stock report. This announcement was made at the same time that the IIc+ & Mac IIx were announced, so the GS+ did not just start as a figment of someone's imagination, it was started by Apple, and I think Apple owes us an explanation..