[comp.sys.apple] Copying DOS 3.3

davidbrierley@lynx.northeastern.edu (05/23/89)

     There has been some discussion lately on the legitimacy of copying
ProDOS so that disks of an individual's software can be sold.  I'm
wondering if Apple allows people who write shareware to copy DOS 3.3 so
that their work has an operating system.  Please respond on the net so that
those who are interested can find out.  Thanx, in advance.

                                     davidbrierley@lynx.northeastern.edu

nazgul@obsolete.UUCP (Kee Hinckley) (05/23/89)

    
    ProDOS so that disks of an individual's software can be sold.  I'm
    wondering if Apple allows people who write shareware to copy DOS 3.3 so
    that their work has an operating system.  Please respond on the net so that
    those who are interested can find out.  Thanx, in advance.

The last I looked into this you had to license DOS from Apple.
Which could be done for $50/year.

					-kee

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SEWALL@UCONNVM.BITNET (Murph Sewall) (05/23/89)

>wondering if Apple allows people who write shareware to copy DOS 3.3 so
>that their work has an operating system.  Please respond on the net so that
>those who are interested can find out.  Thanx, in advance.

Apple has a legitimate interest in preserving their rights to DOS 3.3.
In order to do so, they have to have some sort of legal agreement with
those who distribute the operating system.

Originally Apple spent most of their energy hiring programmers and engineers.
By the time the lawyers got around to worrying about copying DOS 3.3 with
disks, every user group in Christendom was willy-nilly distributing HUGE
quantities of public domain software on disks which also contained DOS 3.3.

Apple's solution is to license DOS 3.3 at REALLY INEXPENSIVE terms  --
something like $75 for a lifetime license.  So, if you really want to
distribute disks with DOS 3.3 on them, there's very little excuse not to
sign a license aggreement with Apple.  Of course, most users who know
enough to know what shareware is also know how to copy a program onto a disk
which has DOS 3.3 on it (I'm a licensed user of Diversi-DOS myself).

The question leads to the curious prospect of a shareware author muttering
about the "pirates" while simultaneously pirating Apple's operating system :-O

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delton@pro-carolina.UUCP (Don Elton) (05/23/89)

Network Comment: to #2936 by obsolete!davidbrierley%lynx.northeastern.edu

Shareware authors can license DOS or ProDOS just like anyone else and are
required to do so legally.  It only costs about $50 per product per year so
it's no big deal to stay legal here.

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ALBRO@NIEHS.BITNET (05/24/89)

davidbrierley@LYNX.NORTHEASTERN.EDU wrote to ask about the legitimacy of
distributing DOS 3.3 with shareware.  This comes up in another aspect
also, when a whole-disk-shrinker (e.g.DDD, PBH, etc) is used on a DOS
3.3 disk.  The DOS 3.3 image from tracks 0-2 is included in the archive
and therefore transmitted with it.  Unless Apple has recently released
DOS 3.3 to the public domain, and I don't think they have (but it's
possible), it is and long has been considered copyright infringment to
upload such a packed disk to a BBS.

The disk packer Digipack.GS is a good example of a company going out
of their way to honor copyright laws.  Digipack will archive a DOS 3.3
disk, but specifically avoids including the DOS image tracks.

-Phil Albro-