tomj@pro-pac.cts.com (Tom Jenkins) (07/06/89)
So how come Prosel does not recognize the newer file formats for the system
disk 5.0? Actually this is a retorical question. Any ideas as to when Glen
will rewrite Beachcomber.32 to work with sys5.0? Such a pain to have it work
on 4.0, but then 4.0 did not have the $c7 type files (cda's).
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INET: tomj@pro-pac.CTS.COM - BITNET: pro-pac.UUCP!tomj@PSUVAX1JDA@NIHCU.BITNET (Doug Ashbrook) (07/07/89)
> So how come Prosel does not recognize the newer file formats for the system > disk 5.0? Actually this is a retorical question. Any ideas as to when Glen > will rewrite Beachcomber.32 to work with sys5.0? Such a pain to have it work > on 4.0, but then 4.0 did not have the $c7 type files (cda's). > What version of Beachcomber.32 are you using? There have been some updates (I will have to wait until I get home to see which version I have). This would be a significant problem. Anyone know if there is a version that works with system disk 5.0? ==================================================================== J. Douglas Ashbrook (301) 496-5181 BITNET: JDA@NIHCU <-- preferred address INTERNET: JDA@CU.NIH.GOV or jda%nihcu.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu National Institutes of Health, Computer Center, Bethesda, MD 20892 -+- Remember. If some weirdo in a blue suit offers you some MS-DOS, JUST SAY NO!
mattd@Apple.COM (Matt Deatherage) (07/08/89)
In article <8907060636.AA05517@crash.cts.com> pnet01!pro-nsfmat!pro-pac!tomj@nosc.mil writes: >So how come Prosel does not recognize the newer file formats for the system >disk 5.0? Actually this is a retorical question. Any ideas as to when Glen >will rewrite Beachcomber.32 to work with sys5.0? Such a pain to have it work >on 4.0, but then 4.0 did not have the $c7 type files (cda's). > Uh...wait a minute... *My* version of ProSel 16 (7.0) came with an 8-bit version which includes a version of BC 32 that does handle extended files. I don't know if it does it right or not, since I don't know what Glen did and we never published the storage type spec for extended files (until now; it's included in July Technical Notes for the use of utilities like BC 32 *ONLY*). And type $C7 files are CDevs, for the Control Panel *NEW* Desk Accessory. CDAs were and still are file type $B9. >-- >UUCP: {nosc, cacilj, sdcsvax, hplabs!hp-sdd, sun.COM} > ...!crash!pnet01!pro-nsfmat!pro-pac!tomj >ARPA: crash!pnet01!pro-nsfmat!pro-pac!tomj@nosc.MIL >INET: tomj@pro-pac.CTS.COM - BITNET: pro-pac.UUCP!tomj@PSUVAX1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Deatherage, Apple Computer, Inc. | "The opinions expressed in this tome Send PERSONAL mail ONLY (please) to: | should not be construed to imply that AppleLink PE: Matt DTS GEnie: AIIDTS | Apple Computer, Inc., or any of its CompuServe: 76703,3030 | subsidiaries, in whole or in part, Usenet: mattd@apple.com | have any opinion on any subject." UUCP: (other stuff)!ames!apple!mattd | "So there." -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
tomj@pro-pac.cts.com (Tom Jenkins) (07/09/89)
>Subject: Re: Sys Disk 5.0 and Prosel Doug Asbrook responds to my post: >> So how come Prosel does not recognize the newer file formats for the system >> disk 5.0? Actually this is a retorical question. Any ideas as to when Glen >> will rewrite Beachcomber.32 to work with sys5.0? Such a pain to have it >> work on 4.0, but then 4.0 did not have the $c7 type files (cda's). > >What version of Beachcomber.32 are you using? There have been some >updates (I will have to wait until I get home to see which version I <have). This would be a significant problem. Anyone know if there is >a version that works with system disk 5.0? I'm using Beachcomber.32 ver 3.5, and I get an "Storage Type" error. And then Matt responds to my question concerning "Forked Files"... >The $C7 filetype is *not* the reason you're having trouble deleting the >file. (If you don't believe me, change the filetype and try to delete it >then. Still no dice.) > >The difficulty is the STORAGE TYPE. The files in question happen to have >storage type "extended", meaning that they have a resource fork. ProDOS 8 >doesn't know about this storage type, so any application that uses the MLI >"DESTROY" call won't be able to delete it. > >Applications like Copy II Plus, which go right to the block level, would need >to be updated to be able to be able to deal with extended files. > >You can easily delete extended files under GS/OS. Just use the Finder (which >is actually fun to use under 5.0, IMHO), APW, ORCA, ECP16, etc. Well gosh...thanks for the information Matt. I guess I knew that (shure ya did Tom!) Now I just can't wait for the manufacturers to update their software! And yes, the Finder is palatable now. Even with the TWGS, but I wish I had 10Mhz! -- UUCP: {nosc, cacilj, sdcsvax, hplabs!hp-sdd, sun.COM} ...!crash!pnet01!pro-nsfmat!pro-pac!tomj ARPA: crash!pnet01!pro-nsfmat!pro-pac!tomj@nosc.MIL INET: tomj@pro-pac.CTS.COM - BITNET: pro-pac.UUCP!tomj@PSUVAX1
dlyons@Apple.COM (David Lyons) (07/12/89)
In article <8907090856.AA21517@crash.cts.com> pnet01!pro-nsfmat!pro-pac!tomj@nosc.mil quotes me several levels deep: >>The $C7 filetype is *not* the reason you're having trouble deleting the >>[...] >>The difficulty is the STORAGE TYPE. The files in question happen to have >>[...] >>You can easily delete extended files under GS/OS. Just use the Finder >(which >>is actually fun to use under 5.0, IMHO), APW, ORCA, ECP16, etc. > >Well gosh...thanks for the information Matt. [...] Hey! It WASN'T MATT...it was ME! (And *this* is me, too.) (Still.) --Dave Lyons, Apple Computer, Inc. | DAL Systems AppleLink--Apple Edition: DAVE.LYONS | P.O. Box 875 AppleLink--Personal Edition: Dave Lyons | Cupertino, CA 95015-0875 GEnie: D.LYONS2 or DAVE.LYONS CompuServe: 72177,3233 Internet/BITNET: dlyons@apple.com UUCP: ...!ames!apple!dlyons My opinions are my own, not Apple's.