[comp.sys.apple] AppleWorks 3.0 limitation on 5.25" disks

ctuel@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Cliff Tuel) (06/29/89)

What REALLY pisses me off is that AppleWorks 3.0 doesn't give the full
spelling dictionary to 5.25" disk users.  According to A2-Central, the
dictionary on 3.5" disks is a whopping 148 blocks BIGGER.  

What I'd like to be able to do is have the program in memory on my 
640K //c and the 402 block dictionary split across two floppies, both
of which are online.  Looks like the developers forgot about us users
with two 5.25" floppies, and I'm PISSED.
 
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jeffj@pro-avalon.cts.com (Jeff Jungblut) (07/03/89)

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>What REALLY pisses me off is that AppleWorks 3.0 doesn't give the full
>spelling dictionary to 5.25" disk users.  According to A2-Central, the
>dictionary on 3.5" disks is a whopping 148 blocks BIGGER.  
>
>What I'd like to be able to do is have the program in memory on my 
>640K //c and the 402 block dictionary split across two floppies, both
>of which are online.  Looks like the developers forgot about us users
>with two 5.25" floppies, and I'm PISSED.

Nearly all users who have only 5.25" drives get upset enough over having to
switch to a dictionary disk when running QuickSpell.  Using two dictionary
disks is too much to ask of Joe Average AppleWorks User.

5.25" floppies are very limited in their capacity.  Developers didn't forget
about these limits; that's why they introduced 3.5" 800k drives.

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cls@stcvax.STORTEK.COM (Chuck L. Still) (07/10/89)

> > >What REALLY pisses me off is that AppleWorks 3.0 doesn't give the full
> > >spelling dictionary to 5.25" disk users.  According to A2-Central, the
> > >dictionary on 3.5" disks is a whopping 148 blocks BIGGER.  
> > >
> > >What I'd like to be able to do is have the program in memory on my 
> > >640K //c and the 402 block dictionary split across two floppies, both
> > >of which are online.  Looks like the developers forgot about us users
> > >with two 5.25" floppies, and I'm PISSED.
> > 
I would like to add my 2 bits to this discussion.  I have a hard drive
and 2  5.25" dirves on my system.  I don't see why I should have to buy
a 3.5" drive just to load the full dictionary onto my HD.  We should be
given the option at least to have the full spelling dictionary on the 
5.25" floppies, we are paying the same price for the up-grade.  We are
the only ones that really know how our system will be used and what we
are willing to put up with in disk wwapping, etc.

Chuck Still
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ALBRO@NIEHS.BITNET (07/12/89)

>From: "Chuck L. Still" <nbires!stcvax!cls@UCBVAX.BERKELEY.EDU>
>Subject: Re: AppleWorks 3.0 limitation on 5.25" Disks
>I would like to add my 2 bits to this discussion.  I have a hard drive
>and 2  5.25" dirves on my system.  I don't see why I should have to buy
>a 3.5" drive just to load the full dictionary onto my HD.  We should be
>given the option at least to have the full spelling dictionary on the
>5.25" floppies, we are paying the same price for the up-grade.  We are
>the only ones that really know how our system will be used and what we
>are willing to put up with in disk wwapping, etc.

>Chuck Still

Since it seems reasonable to you to demand that Claris find a way to supply
you with a usable file on a 5 1/4" disk even though the file is bigger than
144K, it should seem reasonable for you to demand that they supply the
dictionary file as a ShrinkIT archive (which probably would fit on one 5 1/4
" floppy), along with a copy of ShrinkIT so you could unshrink it onto your
hard disk.  This would in fact work, but if you manage to talk Claris into
doing it, please record the argument used!  It should come in handy for all
sorts of things in the future!

mmunz@pro-sol.cts.com (Mark Munz) (07/12/89)

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The reason the 3.5" dictionary is bigger is because it has more room..
it's just that simple.

I know I would hate to have dictionaries spread across 2 disks (I remember
Sensible Speller). 

Folks don't have to buy a 3.5" disk to put it on a hard drive, the term
borrow is better. Just borrow a friends 3.5" disk, install it and be happy.

Myself, I would never even get a 5.25" disk for home anymore...

dale@pro-colony.UUCP (System Operator) (07/13/89)

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FLAME ON

No one says you have to buy a 3.5" drive!  But why should people that have
3.5" drives be limited by people that don't have them?

Have you considered BORROWING a 3.5" drive in order to copy the larger
dictionary file to your hard disk?  (probably not, it's easier to complain)

And how come I can't run AppleWorks 2.0 or higher on my 64k Apple IIe?  After
all, I could run 1.0 - 1.3 on it.

Also, how come those 128k IIe/IIc owners have to lose about 16k of desktop? 
After all, they don't get to use most of the extra features as most of the
newer features (expanded clipboard, spreadsheet) *REQUIRES* extra RAM!

FLAME OFF

Come on folks, let's be reasonable.  You can't always get something for
nothing.  Besides no one is FORCING you to purchase the update (you were going
to pay for it weren't you?)

Dale

                                                                             
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