[comp.sys.apple] Applelink, Personal Edition

lbotez@pro-sol.cts.com (Lynda Botez) (07/06/89)

>Are we all talking about the same thing here?

>AppleLink--Personal Edition does not require me to make any control panel
>changes on my apple IIgs.  Possibly this is just because my standard settings
>were already what it wanted. Which seetings are you guys saying need to be
>changed?

Humm.  I'm using the Apple //GS version.  I forgot there was an 8-bit version
too.  Both the modem and printer ports have to be reconfigured to show
buffering at Yes, and DCD Handshake and DSR/DTR Handshake at No.  These are
not the default selections.  I, also, prefer to leave my settings at default.

I find it totally absurd to have to do this every time I want to log on
Applelink.  I'm no programmer, but I don't understand why the Applelink
Software couldn't have been written so that it changes these settings, and
then returns to the default settings after exiting the program.

While I'm on the subject:  I think the Applelink software it extremely
sluggish... horrible, actually.  It annoys me to use it.  I'm so comfortable
using Proterm, plus it's incredibly fast.  Applelink is a great idea, but I
rarely call because I hate the software.   Plus the messages bases leave a lot
to be desired.  Having to open all those folders... ugh!

Apple should be ashamed of itself -:).

Lynda

SEWALL@UCONNVM.BITNET (Murph Sewall) (07/07/89)

>While I'm on the subject:  I think the Applelink software it extremely
>sluggish... horrible, actually.  It annoys me to use it.  I'm so comfortable
>using Proterm, plus it's incredibly fast.  Applelink is a great idea, but I
>rarely call because I hate the software.   Plus the messages bases leave a lot
>to be desired.  Having to open all those folders... ugh!
>
>Apple should be ashamed of itself -:).

Apple didn't do it -- Quantum did.  I watched a demo of AppleLink PE at
a club meeting a couple of months ago and didn't think it bad at all.
Remember, the system isn't written for high profile network wizards; it's
written for ordinary schmucks who don't know the difference between parity
and baud.

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jonah@amos.ling.ucsd.edu (Jonah Stich) (07/08/89)

In article <8907061916.AA00312@crash.cts.com> pnet01!pro-sol!lbotez@nosc.mil writes:
>While I'm on the subject:  I think the Applelink software it extremely
>sluggish... horrible, actually.  It annoys me to use it.  I'm so comfortable
>using Proterm, plus it's incredibly fast.  Applelink is a great idea, but I
>rarely call because I hate the software.   Plus the messages bases leave a lot
>to be desired.  Having to open all those folders... ugh!

Gosh, there must be something wrong with me. I seem to be the only person I
know who actually LIKES AppleLink. I think the software is fun and is
definately the way to go as far as telecommunicating is concerned. The only
thng I don't like is the cost, particularly because most of the time,, data 
isn't being sent between computers. When you're composing a message, for
instance, you write the whole thing on your computer, and it is only sent
when you're finished. Also, when there are lists on the screen, all the
information has been sent to your computer. I wish you were only charged
for the time that data was actually being transmitted, but that would
probably make it too cheap :) (Or maybe :( )

Jonah

lexter@pro-abilink.UUCP (Sam Robertson) (07/11/89)

Network Comment: to #5932 by obsolete!pro-angmar!pro-sol!lbotez

To some extent Lynda, you are correct that it is a pain, but you can and
should try using keywords.  Besides that consider the audience it is marketed
for.  The typical user who turns on the computer possibly 3 to 7 times a week
and does simple stuff like Appleworks and PrintShop.  I am personally
impressed with ALPE and use it for a minimum of $30.00 a month.  I prefer it
over GEnie for the simple fact that it is completely orientd for the Apple
Computer (which in years to come may not exist!!! ugggghhh!!!!).  Anyway take
a closer look at it, and try keywords.

Sam
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mmunz@pro-sol.cts.com (Mark Munz) (07/12/89)

> To some extent Lynda, you are correct that it is a pain, but you can and
> should try using keywords.  Besides that consider the audience it is 
> marketed for.  The typical user who turns on the computer possibly 3 
> to 7 times a week and does simple stuff like Appleworks and PrintShop.


Oh come on.. "simple stuff like Appleworks"..  I do more than just simple
stuff with AppleWorks.. :-)

terrys@pro-europa.cts.com (Terry Stockdale) (07/15/89)

Comment to message from: pnet01!crash!pro-sol.cts.com!lbotez (Lynda Botez)

>> Both the modem and printer ports have to be reconfigured to show
>> buffering at Yes, and DCD Handshake and DSR/DTR Handshake at No.  
>> These are not the default selections.  I, also, prefer to leave 
>> my settings at default.

This is the second time I have seen a post quoting this erroneous information
from the AppleLink PE manual.  ALPE DOES require Buffering Yes, but the DCD
and
DSR/DTR can remain at Yes (the default).

I have run this way for months without any problems, and do not have to reset
my control panel to use anything else.
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terrys@pro-europa.cts.com (Terry Stockdale) (07/15/89)

Comment to message from: pnet01!crash!pro-sol.cts.com!lbotez (Lynda Botez)

My immediately previous response may be in error.  I just realized that it has
been a long time since I have printed from within ALPE, since
Prosel/CatDoctor's Type command is so much friendlier.  I really detest
software that requires me to know the exact path and filename, when good
software allows you to select the file you want from a menu or list of what is
available.  

Anyway, ALPE settings for the //gs Printer Port of Buffering Yes, DCD yes, and
DSR/DTR yes are an alternative that won't mess you up elsewhere.  

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