delton@pro-carolina.UUCP (System Administrator) (06/04/89)
Network Comment: to #3318 by obsolete!pro-angmar!pro-simasd!lbotez
I'm sure Glen Bredon will have a warm feeling knowing that you actually intend
to pay him for what you have stolen from him. Believe it or not, there are
real people behind the programs you and others decide to use without paying
for and in most cases their income depends on people being honest. Of course
it's no skin off your nose I guess.
UUCP: [ sdcsvax nosc ] !crash!pro-carolina!delton
ARPA: crash!pro-carolina!delton@nosc.mil
INET: delton@pro-carolina.cts.com
Pro-Carolina: 803-776-3936 (300-2400 baud, login as 'register')
US Mail: 3207 Berkeley Forest Drive, Columbia, SC 29209-4111Kreme@cup.portal.com (Lewis Kreme Butler) (06/13/89)
Theft of Prosel? When I received Prosel, it included a text file claiming it was Shareware, and including instructions on who to contact to register, as wel as the price ($40.00) and the number for Pro-Carolina. So I don't know about "stole" and I think that Prosel DID start as shareware, right? Anyway, this was not even downloaded from a pirate BBS, but from an all PD and Shareware board (I think it is an early Prosel version, certainly not the latest). So before you accuse someone of STEALING something, you better be DAMN sure you know what the hell you are talking about. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kreme@cup.portal.com | "Worshipus Interruptus!" Grendel #32 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
dlyons@Apple.COM (David Lyons) (06/14/89)
In article <19406@cup.portal.com> Kreme@cup.portal.com (Lewis Kreme Butler) writes: >[...] When I received Prosel, it included a text file claiming it >was Shareware, and including instructions on who to contact to register, as wel >as the price ($40.00) and the number for Pro-Carolina. So I don't know about >"stole" and I think that Prosel DID start as shareware, right? I don't know whether ProSel was every Shareware or not. It definitely isn't Shareware now, and it hasn't been for quite a while. (Gee...Pro-Carolina. You're not thinking of ECP8, are you?) >kreme@cup.portal.com | "Worshipus Interruptus!" Grendel #32 --Dave Lyons, Apple Computer, Inc. | DAL Systems AppleLink--Apple Edition: DAVE.LYONS | P.O. Box 875 AppleLink--Personal Edition: Dave Lyons | Cupertino, CA 95015-0875 GEnie: D.LYONS2 or DAVE.LYONS CompuServe: 72177,3233 Internet/BITNET: dlyons@apple.com UUCP: ...!ames!apple!dlyons My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
kermie@pro-lep.cts.com (Prince Kermie) (06/15/89)
Network Comment: to #4460 by pnet01!crash!apple.com!dlyons I call many boards (mostly proline) and I have seen programs ranging from print shop to proterm2.01 on the boards that make up the proline network..while I havent seen prosel on any of them, Im not ruling out the fact that its out there...calling mr kreme is a bit harsh..its like taking out all the fustrations from all the pirates and vending them on one user...
delton@pro-carolina.UUCP (Don Elton) (06/16/89)
Network Comment: to #3591 by obsolete!pro-angmar!pro-lep!kermie
Which proline sites did you see those programs on? As I run a legal ProLine
system I don't want to be supporting network connections to pirate boards,
proline or otherwise.
UUCP: [ sdcsvax nosc ] !crash!pro-carolina!delton
ARPA: crash!pro-carolina!delton@nosc.mil
INET: delton@pro-carolina.cts.com
Pro-Carolina: 803-776-3936 (300-2400 baud, login as 'register')
US Mail: 3207 Berkeley Forest Drive, Columbia, SC 29209-4111paul@pro-europa.cts.com (Paul Hutmacher) (06/17/89)
Comment to message from: pnet01!crash!pro-lep.cts.com!kermie (Prince Kermie) > I call many boards (mostly proline) and I have seen programs ranging from > print shop to proterm2.01 on the boards that make up the proline > network..while I havent seen prosel on any of them, Im not ruling out the fact > that its out there...calling mr kreme is a bit harsh..its like taking out all > the fustrations from all the pirates and vending them on one user... Say what? I run a proline site in Houston and from what I've seen there are no pirate proline systems. I can also say that no software gets released on my system without it being checked for copyright infringement. One of the things that really inspired me to switch from GBBS Pro to ProLine was the fact that the network tried to keep it's nose clean. I'd be curious for a few facts about these alleged pirate proline sites. ______________________________________________________________________________ paul@pro-europa.cts.com | "Open the pod bay door HAL" ...!crash!pnet01!pro-nsfmat!pro-europa!paul | "Sorry Dave, I can't do that"
"@UCBVAX.BERKELEY.EDU (06/19/89)
> Network Comment: to #7102 by pnet01!crash!pro-lep.cts.com!kermie > > I would like to know what prolines you have seen pirated software on! We try > to police ourselves and I have not heard of a single proline that has made > available *any* pirated software. > > dale@pro-colony > I also would like to know where you saw this. I have yet to see where anyone has made *knowingly* made *any* pirate software available on the proline network. As a ProLine sysop, I've had copyrighted software uploaded (as has any operator of a bbs system), but its never been approved for download. And the user has been informed of the possible consequences of his action. UUCP: crash!pro-newfrontier!kblack ARPA: crash!pro-newfrontier!kblack@nosc.mil INET: kblack@pro-newfrontier.cts.com "Progress doesn't enlighten people - It just makes them stupid in new ways"
daveharv@pro-novapple.UUCP (Dave Harvey) (06/19/89)
Network Comment: to #7306 by obsolete!imagen!atari!portal!cup.portal.com!Kreme%ucbvax.berkeley.edu >Theft of Prosel? When I received Prosel, it included a text file claiming it >was Shareware, and including instructions on who to contact to register, as wel >as the price ($40.00) and the number for Pro-Carolina. So I don't know about Are you sure you're not talking about ProCmd? This might have been Shareware at one time and was written by Don Elton of pro-carolina. It's now marketed by Tech Aliance (Call Apple). proline: pro-novapple!daveharv uucp: crash!pro-novapple!daveharv arpa: crash!pro-novapple!daveharv@nosc.mil Internet: daveharv@pro-novapple.cts.com DIALCOM: 164:NVC100 Northern Virginia Apple Users Group >pro-novapple< 703-671-0416/300-2400 baud
Kreme@cup.portal.com (Lewis Kreme Butler) (06/20/89)
Pro-line site? I never said a Proline site. I said a PD and Shareware board. Which, by the by, is no longer with us. Makes the point moot anyway.... -Kreme
delton@pro-carolina.UUCP (System Administrator) (06/21/89)
Network Comment: to #3695 by obsolete!pnet01!pro-novapple!daveharv%nosc.mil
This is getting worse... I didn't write ProCmd either and didn't write ProSEL
and neither has ever been available for downloading from pro-carolina.
UUCP: [ sdcsvax nosc ] !crash!pro-carolina!delton
ARPA: crash!pro-carolina!delton@nosc.mil
INET: delton@pro-carolina.cts.com
Pro-Carolina: 803-776-3936 (300-2400 baud, login as 'register')
US Mail: 3207 Berkeley Forest Drive, Columbia, SC 29209-4111kermie@pro-lep.cts.com (Prince Kermie) (06/22/89)
Network Comment: to #4600 by pnet01!crash!trout.nosc.mil!pnet01!pro-novapple!daveharv Ok...the board I saw the software on was/is Pro-sat as to my knowledge, the software is still on hold..the library hasnt been updated in about a month or two..I keep calling to see if the sysop is going to make that avialable to the masses or to delete it..Im interested in what his choice will be...
kermie@pro-lep.cts.com (Prince Kermie) (06/22/89)
Network Comment: to #4621 by pnet01!crash!pro-europa.cts.com!paul I woudldnt call a system a pirate system because it has 2 maybe 3 copyrighted software programs on it..pirate systems are dedicated towards the entire board being pirated software...see an earlier post for the single system I've seen
dale@pro-colony.UUCP (System Operator) (07/22/89)
Network Comment: to #7102 by pnet01!crash!pro-lep.cts.com!kermie
I would like to know what prolines you have seen pirated software on! We try
to police ourselves and I have not heard of a single proline that has made
available *any* pirated software.
dale@pro-colony
uucp : crash!pnet01!pro-colony!dale pro-colony
arpa : crash!pnet01!pro-colony!dale@nosc.mil (214) 370-7056
proline: dale@pro-colony 3/12/2400 baud - 24 hrs