shatara@memit.dec.com (Chris Shatara) (07/13/89)
I recently put a hard disk on my kids (ha!) //gs and this evening ran into a strange problem with Multiscribe GS (V3). I have the dictionary on the the hard disk. I was playing with the thesauraus and I opened a new document typed ONE (1) WORD, highlighted it and then asked for synonyms. It prompted me for the dictionary so I clicked on the disctionary that was on the hard disk. It proceeded to tell me i didn't have enough memory for this operation. I have 1.25M in the system, I had the /ram5 disk set to 256K. I check the control panel to get some idea of how much memory I had available and I had close to 400K. I then zeroed out the ram disk, POWERED DOWN THE SYSTEM, and tried the same thing again......Same thing. I then tried it a third time with the utilities disk in the 3.5" drive (this is one the has the dictionary on it) and everything worked just fine. I'm running GS/OS which came with System Disk 4. Is this an undocumented feature or am I missing something? -------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Shatara shatara@memit.dec.com --or-- ...!decwrl!memit.dec.com!shatara --or-- shatara%memit.dec@decwrl.dec.com --------------------------------------------------------------------
jazzman@claris.com (Sydney R. Polk) (07/15/89)
From article <417@mountn.dec.com>, by shatara@memit.dec.com (Chris Shatara): > I recently put a hard disk on my kids (ha!) //gs and this evening ran > into a strange problem with Multiscribe GS (V3). I have the dictionary > on the the hard disk. I was playing with the thesauraus and I opened a > new document typed ONE (1) WORD, highlighted it and then asked for > synonyms. It prompted me for the dictionary so I clicked on the > disctionary that was on the hard disk. It proceeded to tell me i didn't > have enough memory for this operation. > > I have 1.25M in the system, I had the /ram5 disk set to 256K. I check the > control panel to get some idea of how much memory I had available and I > had close to 400K. I then zeroed out the ram disk, POWERED DOWN THE > SYSTEM, and tried the same thing again......Same thing. > > I then tried it a third time with the utilities disk in the 3.5" drive > (this is one the has the dictionary on it) and everything worked just > fine. > > I'm running GS/OS which came with System Disk 4. > > Is this an undocumented feature or am I missing something? This is the same code that is in AppleWorks GS, and is even less stable because MultiScribe was tested very little. I'm suprised the speller works at all. And whatever you do, if you want to check spelling, keep the dictionary disk in the drive. It's been two years since MSGS was released and we are just now getting around to fixing spell checker bugs in AWGS. Too bad we aren't doing MSGS anymore. -- Syd Polk | Wherever you go, there you are. jazzman@claris.com | Let the music be your light. GO 'STROS! | These opinions are mine. Any resemblence to other GO RICE! | opinions, real or fictitious, is purely coincidence.
SEWALL@UCONNVM.BITNET (Murph Sewall) (07/17/89)
>This is the same code that is in AppleWorks GS, and is even less stable >because MultiScribe was tested very little. I'm suprised the speller works >at all. And whatever you do, if you want to check spelling, keep the >dictionary disk in the drive. > >It's been two years since MSGS was released and we are just now getting >around to fixing spell checker bugs in AWGS. Too bad we aren't doing MSGS >anymore. Have you all thought that one through? You just said "Two years ago we offered for sale a program that was not thoroughly checked. Even though it is hardly surprising that there are a number of bugs in it, we've "orphaned" the thing and now tell users that any problems they have with the software are their tough luck. We do hope, however, that they continue to purchase the programs we are selling today." P.T Barnum ("There's a sucker born every minute.") lives? Murph Sewall Vaporware? ---> [Gary Larson returns 1/1/90] Prof. of Marketing Sewall@UConnVM.BITNET Business School sewall%uconnvm.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu [INTERNET] U of Connecticut {psuvax1 or mcvax }!UCONNVM.BITNET!SEWALL [UUCP] (203) 486-5246 [FAX] (203) 486-2489 [PHONE] 41 49N 72 15W [ICBM] -+- I don't speak for my employer, though I frequently wish that I could (subject to change without notice; void where prohibited)
shatara@memit.dec.com (Chris Shatara) (07/17/89)
>>because MultiScribe was tested very little. I'm suprised the speller works >>at all. And whatever you do, if you want to check spelling, keep the >>dictionary disk in the drive. >> >>It's been two years since MSGS was released and we are just now getting >>around to fixing spell checker bugs in AWGS. Too bad we aren't doing MSGS >>anymore. > Now that Beagle Bros has the rights to Multiscribe GS (at least I think they do), did they also get the customer list such that in the (unlikely?) event an update occurs, we can be notified. Are they, Beagle Bros reachable via the net? I'd like to voice my concerns/wishes. My guess would be that MSGS will die a slow death as it presents a reasonable alternative to AWGS. I like the font/graphics capability of MSGS and find that vanila flavored Apple works meets my database and spread sheet needs just fine. I can't see spending $150 more dollars (for upgrading to AWGS) just to get a program working that should have worked in the first place. (Just venting folks - is the MSDOS world any different?). -------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Shatara shatara@memit.dec.com --or-- ...!decwrl!memit.dec.com!shatara --or-- shatara%memit.dec@decwrl.dec.com --------------------------------------------------------------------
tribby@hpindwa.HP.COM (David Tribby) (07/18/89)
jazzman@claris.com (Sydney R. Polk) writes... > It's been two years since MSGS was released and we are just now getting > around to fixing spell checker bugs in AWGS. Are you reviewing some of the definitions, too? Compare the synonyms for man vs. woman and boy vs. girl; I'm no feminist, but the contrast was interesting. Then take a look at liberal vs. conservative. Microsoft Word's synonyms seem to make fewer value judgements... --Dave Tribby - - - - - ARPA: tribby%hpda@hplabs.HP.COM UUCP: hplabs!hpda!tribby
jazzman@claris.com (Sydney R. Polk) (07/18/89)
From article <8907161608.aa24691@SMOKE.BRL.MIL>, by SEWALL@UCONNVM.BITNET (Murph Sewall): > Have you all thought that one through? You just said "Two years ago we > offered for sale a program that was not thoroughly checked. Even though it > is hardly surprising that there are a number of bugs in it, we've "orphaned" > the thing and now tell users that any problems they have with the software > are their tough luck. We do hope, however, that they continue to purchase > the programs we are selling today." P.T Barnum ("There's a sucker born > every minute.") lives? StyleWare was a different company than Claris, and did not always have enough resources to thoroughly test some of its products. Unfotunately, spell checking in MSGS was one of those things that just didn't get tested very much. Claris has an excellent SQA department, and it is a joy to work with them. Because of Claris, many things are being fixed in AWGS that StyleWare would have taken a long time just to find. -- Syd Polk | Wherever you go, there you are. jazzman@claris.com | Let the music be your light. GO 'STROS! | These opinions are mine. Any resemblence to other GO RICE! | opinions, real or fictitious, is purely coincidence.
wombat@claris.com (Scott Lindsey) (07/20/89)
In article <36410001@hpindwa.HP.COM> tribby@hpindwa.HP.COM (David Tribby) writes:
Are you reviewing some of the definitions, too? Compare the synonyms for
man vs. woman and boy vs. girl; I'm no feminist, but the contrast was
interesting. Then take a look at liberal vs. conservative. Microsoft Word's
synonyms seem to make fewer value judgements...
We've put a request in to Proximity, the company that wrote, owns & licenses
the spell checker & thesaurus, and they might be able to get us new data files.
Part of the problem is that a single definition is used for multiple synonyms.
Case in point: The definition of husband is also used for man. Similarly, the
definition of wife is used for woman. I haven't looked at boy vs. girl, but
the disparity probably stems from a similar set of definitions.
Scott Lindsey |"Cold and misty morning. I heard a warning borne in the air
Claris Corp. | About an age of power when no one had an hour to spare"
ames!claris!wombat| DISCLAIMER: These are not the opinions of Claris, Apple,
wombat@claris.com | StyleWare, the author, or anyone else living or dead.SEWALL@UCONNVM.BITNET (Murph Sewall) (07/24/89)
>Are they, Beagle Bros reachable via the net? I'd like to voice my >concerns/wishes. Found an item on my FAX this morning (arrived late Friday) from - __________________________________________________________ | UUCP: crash!pro-avalon!jeffj | Jeff Jungblut | | ARPA: crash!pro-avalon!jeffj@nosc.mil | Customer Support | | INET: jeffj@pro-avalon.cts.com | Beagle Bros | |_______________________________________|__________________| The news in the FAX is: StyleWare products purchased by Beagle Brothers are NO LONGER COPY PROTECTED. If you want the latest, not copy protected, version, mail your original, copy protectd, disk and $10 to Beagle Bros., Inc., 6215 Ferris Square, Suite 100 San Diego, CA 92121 Ph is: (619) 452-5500 Customer Support: (619) 452-5502 Bug fixes and new features for at least some StyleWare products are expected in about two months. Murph Sewall Vaporware? ---> [Gary Larson returns 1/1/90] Prof. of Marketing Sewall@UConnVM.BITNET Business School sewall%uconnvm.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu [INTERNET] U of Connecticut {psuvax1 or mcvax }!UCONNVM.BITNET!SEWALL [UUCP] (203) 486-5246 [FAX] (203) 486-2489 [PHONE] 41 49N 72 15W [ICBM] -+- I don't speak for my employer, though I frequently wish that I could (subject to change without notice; void where prohibited)