[net.movies] Fantasia

consult@uwmacc.UUCP (MACC Consultants) (10/03/84)

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If you like Fantasia, or if you didn't see Fantasia, check out
Allegro non Troppo.
It's a take off on Fantasia which came out a few years (?)
later.
I liked it  better than Fantasia, because the animation seemed more
imagnative.



                              Sue Brunkow

amir@digi-g.UUCP (Amir Vafaei) (10/11/84)

Was phantasia the same disney movie with classical musics as the basis of it?

If not, which disney movie was it?

jab@uokvax.UUCP (10/19/84)

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If you like Fantasia, or if you didn't see Fantasia, check out
Allegro non Troppo.
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Someone asked about "Fantasia" --- the Disney/Stokowski venture that
came out in 1939 and has been rereleased MANY times since. (I saw it
first when I was 8, and it's quite good.)

The selections in this film are:
	A transcription of Bach's "Toccata and Fugue in D Minor"
	Selections from "The Nutcracker Suite"
	"The Sorceror's Apprentice" (starring Mickey Mouse)
	<Intermission>
	Selections from Beethoven's "Pastoral" Symphony
	"Dance of the Hours" ("Waltz of the Hours"?)
	Selections from "The Rites of Spring"
	"Night on Bald Mountain" (merging into Schubert's "Ave Maria")
I've probably left something out, but you get the idea. It's not the
best movie for three-year-olds, though.

	Jeff Bowles
	Lisle, IL

rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (10/23/84)

> The selections in this film [Fantasia] are:
> 	A transcription of Bach's "Toccata and Fugue in D Minor"
> 	Selections from "The Nutcracker Suite"
> 	"The Sorceror's Apprentice" (starring Mickey Mouse)
> 	<Intermission>
> 	Selections from Beethoven's "Pastoral" Symphony
> 	"Dance of the Hours" ("Waltz of the Hours"?)
> 	Selections from "The Rites of Spring"
> 	"Night on Bald Mountain" (merging into Schubert's "Ave Maria")
> I've probably left something out, but you get the idea. It's not the
> best movie for three-year-olds, though.

On the contrary, young kids love the movie, at least in my experience.

It's a good thing you said 'Selections from "The Rites [sic] of Spring"'.
Stravinsky didn't quite like the "selecting" that Stokowski and/or Disney
did, and sued them for butchering his composition.  Does anyone know what
transpired in that case?

[I grimace when I hear "transcription" and "Toccata and Fugue in D Minor" in
the same sentence.]
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grass@uiucdcsb.UUCP (10/26/84)

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Stravinsky lost the case.  Essentially, the composition was not protected,
because Czarist Russia (and the USSR up to the mid 70's) did belong
to the international copyright system.  Stravinsky had essentially no 
rights to his work in the U.S.

As I heard the story, Disney more or less said to him:  Mr. Stravinsky,
we would like permission to use your work, but if you do not give us
permission, we will use it anyway.  Rather shabby.

					-- Judy Grass
					   Univ Of Illinois, Urbana

ecl@hocsj.UUCP (10/29/84)

Reference: <210@pyuxd.UUCP>, <10000106@uiucdcsb.UUCP>

(I tried to 'r' this, but pur-ee couldn't find uiucdcsb.)

> Stravinsky lost the case.  Essentially, the composition was not protected,
> because Czarist Russia (and the USSR up to the mid 70's) did belong
> to the international copyright system.  Stravinsky had essentially no 
> rights to his work in the U.S.

Did you mean "did *not* belong" in line 2?  (I think you must have.)  At any
rate, many authors have had their works published in the USSR with no
royalties.  Of course, when they are paid royalties, it's in rubles which
they can't exchange for anything else, so they have to go there to spend them.
Everyone loses but the Soviet government.

					Evelyn C. Leeper
					...ihnp4!hocsj!ecl

grass@uiucdcsb.UUCP (10/31/84)

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Ooops!   I DID mean to say "did NOT belong".  The USSR does belong to
the copyright convention now, but this has been seen as more a means
of extending censorship over Soviet writers than anything else.
			- Judy at Univ. of Illinois- Urbana