dougm@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Doug Mcintyre) (09/14/89)
Arrggh.. I decided to 'upgrade' to the Apple II SCSI card to run my CMS sd43 drive off of. How do I get to format this drive when running off the Apple SCSI card???! I can still run off the CMS card after all this stuff, so obviously it works, and it hasn't been formated yet. Steps taken.. First off using system disk v4.0 with the scsi.driver installed in driver subdirectry (and it is enabled..).. 1> turn computer and drive both on at same time. GS/OS boot screen comes up. Red bar goes across. about 5/6 of the way accross the thermoter, the scsi drive inuse light comes on, and stays on. The termometer goes all the way to the top. Drive keeps spinning on for infinity. 2> Turn drive on and let it do its self-test. Turn on computer.. Boots fine, except there is no* scsi devices, or anyother devices of any kind except for my 3.5" drive and the 5.25" drive.. The scsi drive is nowhere to be found.. 3> Turn on computer. Let it come up to the finder. Turn on drive.. Same as #2.. Nothing happens.. 4> Turn on computer. Turn on drive when the thermometer is at the 'l' in "Welcome to the IIGS". Now we get a little further. It takes longer to boot. Presumably this is from GS/OS actually loading the scsi.driver. Then the finder comes up. Then the finder starts scanning for devices. It then hits upon the scsi drive. The drive inuse light comes on, and spins forever. System hangs.. 5> Same as #4. Except turn *off* drive just when finder starts.. Gets further. The finder doesn't hang try to read the scsi drive, and the scsi.driver is loaded, even though there is no hard drive 'connected'. I then run 'adv.disk.util' to try to init the drive. Hitting 'volume' will scroll through the 2 devices connected. The 3.5" drive, and the ram disk. (no 5.25" disk driver installed). I then turn on drive again. Scroll the devices with 'volume' it comes to the scsi hard disk, and then hangs, trying to access the drive. Hangs forever.. I also have SCSI hacker. When ever I get to run it all the way, it always* comes back with "ProDOS/smp error #0" which is no error.. also if I do 5> (ie. turn it on when the thermometer is at 'l' and then turn it off at the finder startup), and then run basic.system. Then turn on drive, then do a '-hacker', SCSI.hacker will then access the drive and hang the system while the drive spins forever.. Turn off drive while it is spinning (yeah, yeah..) I then get the "Prodos/smp error #0". The scsi chain is terminated by the terminator resistor packs installed on the drive, why bother to remove them and buy apple's terminator? The local Apple tech people I've talked to on the phone have me do steps 1,2,3 and then conclude that there is something wrong with my hardware.. How can I format the drive so I can use it??! The drive is a standard Seagate st277N (40M scsi hard drive) that all the build your own articles are aimed at.. Reasons I decided to upgrade to Apple II SCSI card. CMS itself acknowledges that there is a compatiblity problem with sys disk v5.0, and its card. I have no local CMS dealers around me, and the company won't deal with individuals such as myself. Previous postings suggested a charge for the EPROM upgrade that is supposed to be shipping in a week. I need my hard drive, and can't do without for a week or two, if I could get the dealer to upgrade my drive. I decided I didn't need the grief of going through all that it would take to get the new EPROM, so I'd try to sell off my CMS card.. Also I've been experiencing the problems the CMS tech guy says is what is the compatibilty problems with sys v5.0.. so I do need the new EPROM if I did want to try to get it.. I'd really appreciate it if anybody else who did this route would relate any experiences or whatnot. Or do I have a bad Apple SCSI card? or is there something completely wrong with my system or what? please help.. UUCP: {rosevax, crash}!orbit!pnet51!dougm Compuserve: 70611,2215 ARPA: crash!orbit!pnet51!dougm@nosc.mil ALPE: DougMac INET: dougm@pnet51.cts.com GENIE: D.MCINTYRE1