craparotta@liovax.enet.dec.com (Physical T5--Virtual T7) (10/13/89)
>Why all these rumours etc... about Apple and the GS? Of course Apple will >devote more resources to the Mac end of things.They need to.But the company is >supporting the GS etc....Not many computer companies would provide the support >that Apple is giving to a 10 year old computer line.The only other one that >comes to mind is HP and they don't have people on the Usenet supporting HP >Integrals! In everyones best interest the sniping should end.The GS is a fine >computer.Stop putting it down. >Philip McDunnough -> philip@utstat.toronto.edu >[definite disclaimer] Phil, If I was a CEO of ANY company and one of my lines generated over 1 BILLION dollars, I'd support it a HELL of alot BETTER than Apple is.. The GS is a nice computer, it's just that it could be alot better!! Joe
philip@pro-generic.cts.com (Philip McDunnough) (10/16/89)
Network Comment: to #6141 by craparotta@liovax.enet.dec.com Well Joe I don't want to quibble with the 1 billion figure but that figure may very well include peripherals(used by both lines),school sales(System 5 is exactly what they need for networking purposes),... .I am not convinced that Apple is not supporting the GS(if you think it's bad in the US then come to Canada).What do you want from the GS(apart from the obvious video issues)? Not everyone needs a speed demon.TWGS(I have the 7MHz) version in a box about to be installed as soon as I receive the ROM3 computer). The printer drivers will be improved,I assume, as part of Apple's revamping of its printing stategies(based on Quickdraw,"Royal" font,...).People can get a TWGS.The GS is open to adaptation to ones' needs.That is exactly its strength. The Mac is far less flexible.Any modification does not come cheap. Really of course the GS can be made MUCH better. You seem to have customized a pretty powerful setup.The missing links are better video,and easier file exchange.(apart from the printer issue). )Philip McDunnough ->philip@utstat.toronto.edu ::University of Toronto
SEWALL@UCONNVM.BITNET (Murph Sewall) (10/16/89)
On Fri, 13 Oct 89 05:02:14 -0700 you said: > If I was a CEO of ANY company and one of my lines generated over >1 BILLION dollars, I'd support it a HELL of alot BETTER than Apple is.. >The GS is a nice computer, it's just that it could be alot better!! NOTE!! There is a VAST difference between sales revenue (the 'billion dollars') and profit! Not only that, the REAL test of the worth of a component of any organization's business is it's return on investment (PRESENT & POTENTIAL profit divided by invested capital) compared to the return on alternative uses of (limited) capital. The PRESENT profit on the Apple 2 line APPEARS attractive because Apple is "milking a 'cash cow'" (an ENTIRELY appropriate strategy for a MATURE product line with LIMITED future GROWTH prospects). Apple clearly feels the Macintosh line (a 'STAR' in stategic management jargon) has the greater POTENTIAL return on invested capital. Hence (given the assumptions really are appropriate -- a point on which I have insufficient data to judge), Apple's emphasis on the Macintosh is entirely sensible (which DOES NOT mean they shouldn't act to keep their 'cash cow' producing 'milk' indefinately). I read where John Louis Gassee denied (at AppleFest) a rumor that Apple would cease production on the IIgs by 1992. However, his denial was less than inspiring ("Gee, if that rumor were true, there'll be an awful lot of unhappy engineers at Apple"). There were an awful lot of unhappy engineers at Coleco when the company decided to drop the Adam -- c'est la vie. On the other hand, it's MUCH too early to tell what the financial prospects for the Apple 2 line will be in 1992 (my guess is that IF <--largest word in the English language> Video Technologies brings out a <fast> IIgs clone AND Apple doesn't have an aggessive response, THEN a LOT of Apple engineers will be seeking work with an Asian employer). Murph Sewall Vaporware? ---> [Gary Larson returns 1/1/90] Prof. of Marketing Sewall@UConnVM.BITNET Business School sewall%uconnvm.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu [INTERNET] U of Connecticut {psuvax1 or mcvax }!UCONNVM.BITNET!SEWALL [UUCP] (203) 486-5246 [FAX] (203) 486-2489 [PHONE] 41 49N 72 15W [ICBM] The opposite of artificial intelligence is genuine stupidity! -+- I don't speak for my employer, though I frequently wish that I could (subject to change without notice; void where prohibited)