TMURPHY@WPI.BITNET (06/22/88)
Has anyone been able to display the gif files sent by APPLE2-L on anything but an Apple? I can't seem to, althougt the files work fine on the Apple with IIGIF. ________________________________________________________________ Thomas C. Murphy Worcester Polytechnic Institute CAD Lab Mechanical Engineering Dept. BITNET: TMURPHY@WPI Arpanet: tmurphy%wpi.bitnet@talcott.harvard.edu
pmwenzel@tybalt.caltech.edu (Peter M. Wenzel) (06/22/88)
In article <8806211843.AA27175@wpi.local> TMURPHY@WPI.BITNET writes: > >Has anyone been able to display the gif files sent by APPLE2-L on anything >but an Apple? I can't seem to, although >the files work fine on the Apple with IIGIF. I was able to display them on IBM PC/XT/AT and PS/2's with a number of different display programs. I used Kermit on both ends to transfer them to an IBM, setting the file type to binary. No problems at all. I'm sure this same procedure works for other systems as well. >Thomas C. Murphy Worcester Polytechnic Institute CAD Lab > Mechanical Engineering Dept. >BITNET: TMURPHY@WPI >Arpanet: tmurphy%wpi.bitnet@talcott.harvard.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ___ __/ \ _ / _ \_/ \__^__/\_/-\ Pete Wenzel | | | ---PMWenzel----> Caltech 1-60 | |_| ==============/ Pasadena, CA 91126 \__ / @CITRomeo.Bitnet (818) 577-9005 \___/ @Juliet.Caltech.Edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
CS656@OUACCVMB.BITNET (08/01/88)
I have been using IIGIF on my //C with surprisingly nice results. What other machines will the graphic files work on and what programs are required to use them. I just got a MAC+ on extended load from the local dealer and was wonderin g if there was a way to transport graphics between it and my //C. Also, I have a demo version of Diversi-Tune for the GS. Since I don't have a GS is there any way that I can convert the PRODOS16 files on my //C into a form Thanks, Bob Church CS656@OUACCVMB P.S. Judging from some of the responssa I have recieved about my last posting "a new menace" I feel, once again, the need to point out what I would think wou ld be the obvious. It was intended as a bit of humor. This is starting to seem impossible in the world of terminals.
taro@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Taro Nobusawa) (08/03/88)
In article <8808010938.aa26566@SMOKE.BRL.ARPA> CS656@OUACCVMB.BITNET writes: >I have been using IIGIF on my //C with surprisingly nice results. What other >machines will the graphic files work on and what programs are required to use >them. I just got a MAC+ on extended load from the local dealer and was wonderin >g if there was a way to transport graphics between it and my //C. GIF is a non-computer specific graphics format. Any computer if it has GIF conversion software can display GIF pictures. The quality of the picture depends on the capabilities of the computer, but usually a acceptable picture can be made from GIF files. I know the Mac has a GIF viewer, freind of mine has one. I have the IIGS GIF viewer. Pretty sure there are viewers for the Amiga and Atari ST. If you can get the pictures into GIF format, you can transport them to any machine that has software to do the conversion. >Also, I have a demo version of Diversi-Tune for the GS. Since I don't have a >GS is there any way that I can convert the PRODOS16 files on my //C into a form Sorry, I don't think you'll be able to run this on a IIc. I'm not sure what your question exacly is, since it seems to have gotten lost somewhere. -- "Mad as a hen wetter...goodbye and good day. THPPT" -Opus Taro Nobusawa taro@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu taro@uhccux.BITNET Compu$erve 71071,322 {ihnp4,uunet,ucbvax}!ucsd!nosc!uhccux!taro
dseah@wpi.wpi.edu (David I Seah) (03/20/89)
DOUG@ECL.PSU.EDU writes: >Can anyone tell me exactly what a GIF file is for? I downloaded one and >unarchived it, and now it's just sitting on my disk in binary doing >nothing.. something tells me that it won't be very useful for me. GIF stands for Graphics Interchange Format (or something close to that). This is a file format designed for the universal exchange of computer graphics images between different machines with different display capabilities. If I created a picture on my Apple IIGS, and wanted to share it with a friend who had an Amiga, I could use a GIF converter (such as SHR Convert) to translate the Apple IIGS picture format into GIF. My friend would then use a GIF reader on his Amiga to view the picture! Keep in mind, though, that some images don't "GIF" very well across different machine types. A GIF file contains information about the picture's dimensions and color use. For example, you download a GIF picture that was originally created on an IBM PC. The original picture has 256 different colors out of a possible 262,144 color map, with a screen size of 320x200 pixels. All this information was encoded into the GIF file you just downloaded. Attempting to deGIF this file onto the Apple IIe double hires screen (16 colors and effective 280x192 COLOR resolution) will probably not be worth the effort. For the Apple IIGS, there is a program called SHR Convert which will handle GIF files plus a myriad of other computer file formats. It is availiable from 35.1.1.43 (or it was). There is a file there called UT.IIGIF that is a GIF converter for non-GSs, but I don't remember if it handles double hires or LAAARRGE bitmaps. Also, you might want to check out the !INDEX file, which defines all those file prefixes. | <<<<<(((((( DAVE SEAH ))))))>>>>> | Internet: dseah@wpi.wpi.edu | Worcester Polytechnic Institute | Bitnet: dseah@wpi.bitnet | Computer Engineering Class of '90 | ALink PE: Omnitreant
yk4@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Yong Su Kim) (10/25/89)
I would like to download some gif pictures on some FTP sites but I am unable to do so. I downloaded the files onto the UNIX system and then I sent the files via Kermit to my GS. I then tried SHRConvert but it either responded by saying that the file was too long or it responded by going into some kind of endless loop. I also tried stripping line feeds but that didn't help. Obviously, I am doing something wrong. If anyone can help me, please leave a message. Thanks _____________________________________________________________________________ |Internet: yk4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu |||||||The Korean from Hong Kong.|||||| |Bitnet : yk4@cunixc ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| |UUCP : rutgers!columbia!cunixc!yk4 ||||||||||...Apple IIGS user...|||||||| |_______________________________________|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) (10/25/89)
In article <8910250334.AA01954@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu> yk4@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Yong Su Kim) writes: > >I would like to download some gif pictures on some FTP sites but I am >unable to do so. I downloaded the files onto the UNIX system and then >I sent the files via Kermit to my GS. I then tried SHRConvert but it >either responded by saying that the file was too long or it responded >by going into some kind of endless loop. I also tried stripping line >feeds but that didn't help. > >Obviously, I am doing something wrong. If anyone can help me, please >leave a message. Thanks The only idea I have is that FTP might not be sending them in binary mode. You must tell FTP to send them in binary for them to work. (Type "binary" at the prompt). I've downloaded them ASCII, they don't work, and then if I do them binary it works.. (Downloading them ASCII was an accident). By the way, is there any work on a FASTER GIF converter? Either a new version of SHRConvert or a wholly different program? That's one of the few speed related things that I really really complain about. Sure speeding up everything else would be good to but that takes forever. I realize that I COULD NOT write a faster one either, so.... --- unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu
lmb7421@ultb.UUCP (L.M. Barstow) (10/27/89)
In article <8910250334.AA01954@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu> yk4@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Yong Su Kim) writes: | |I would like to download some gif pictures on some FTP sites but I am |unable to do so. I downloaded the files onto the UNIX system and then |I sent the files via Kermit to my GS. I then tried SHRConvert but it |either responded by saying that the file was too long or it responded |by going into some kind of endless loop. I also tried stripping line |feeds but that didn't help. GIF files are BINARY - make sure you have eight-bit-quoting ON on both machines, or use XMODEM protocol (Kermit 3.83 and up have XMODEM protocol as an option)... Also, if yo have the current version of SHRConvert, APPLE-mouse_click should recover what was converted - if it looks wavy and distorted, you have accidentally uploaded in 7-bit mode... good luck! -- Les Barstow **All of the paths work!!!!** LMB7421@RITVAX.BITNET lmb7421@{ultb,vaxa,vaxb,vaxc,vaxd}.isc.rit.edu UUCP: ...rutgers!rochester!rit!ultb!lmb7421 LENSMAN@DRYCAS.BITNET lensman@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu