[comp.sys.apple] Questions

LYMAN@IASSNS.BITNET.UUCP (02/15/87)

I recently bought Softerm 2 and am generally very happy with it.  I am even
happier about the technical support I have gotten via phone, but I have 1
pretty big problem which I suspect is in hardware.  Every 20-30 minutes
I get an "Unexpected Interupt" which requires me to power cycle.
 
Also when I am in the Pascal system I occasionally get spontaneous reboots.
 
I have a fan, and have reseated all chips, cleaned all connectors, etc.  I
need to know if there are any diagnostic programs out there, or if anyone has
any clues which board might be causing the problem.  Currently I have:
 
Slot 0 : Language Card
Slot 1:
Slot 2: Hayes Micromodem
Slot 3: Sup'R'Terminal Board
Slot 4
Slot 5: Softerm Keyboard Expander
Slot 6: Disk controller
 
I have a secong sourced power supply (this computer's third).  It is a 64K
II+.
 
Anyone else have this problem, or any ideas?  I really would like some clues
before I consider talking to dealers, since I have yet to find any whose
technical abilities are overwhelming, and their solutions invariably involve an
upgrade to a new computer.
 
Lyman Hurd

SEWALL@UCONNVM.BITNET (05/10/87)

1. Yes indeed Xmodem and Christensen protocol are one-in-the-same
  (Apple Access just has to be cutesy).

2. I think it's the June issue of InCider that says either the
   external Apple 2 keypad or the one that's included on the new
   //e and IIgs keyboards will be recognized as the VT-100 "keypad"
   by Apple Access (and probably DCOM because it appears to access
   it the same way on Apple's without a separate keypad).

3. I spoke to my tech friend at Computer Resources Friday.  He tells
   me I misremembered what he told me a couple of weeks ago.  Indeed
   SOME Grappler's have trouble on the IIgs (see the tech note Rick
   Fincher posted) if they have an older ROM, but it's the BUFFERED
   Grapplers that hang hopelessly on the IIgs.

brendonw@pro-la.cts.COM (Brendon Woirhaye) (06/10/88)

> Is there still a market for the MacLisa?
> Douglas Howell

There is a company called "Sun Remarketing" which deals specificly with
obsolete Apples.. Lisas, Max XL, Apple ///, etc. which offers many peripherals
and programs to upgrade your older systems and such.  I do not have the
address
here, but if you would like me to, I'll dig it up.



> Well, the GS is semi-multitaksing. There's someting from W. RODGERS
> PUBLISHING that's called the "SWITCHER" It allowes 4 simultasking programs
> to be run.
> Although not at the same time, you can just flip back and forth from
> Appleworks and then to Dazel Draw. (When the boss turns his head.)
> I think it only works for ProDos, (Ok, another limitation.), but then
> again, I don't own the thing.

The program is called "Softswitch", and allows you to have three 8-bit
programs
in memory at once.  Dos 3.3, ProDos, or other 8-bit operating system.  The
programs do not run simultaneously, but rather, just stay in memory, and you
can jump from one to another.  It will also let you save a program in
execution, which is real handy if you're trying to get past a tough place in a
game (save it before you get there, restore if you mess up), or you can save
to
disk (a great boon for Wizardry players)


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UD182050@VM1.NODAK.EDU (Mike Aos) (10/10/89)

Sorry to belabor the point, but how was it again that you are supposed to deal
with custom Icons?  I never had any problems before, so I just ignored it.  I
picked up TRASH.EARTH icon from COMP.BINARIES.APPLE2 an hour or so ago, and
when I put something in the trash to look at it, the TRASH CAN DISSAPPEARED!
Then, after I ejected the System.Disk, the trash can turned into a SYSTEM
folder with the nifty little multi-colored apple on it.  How do I avoid this?
Also, in a totally unrelated question, why is it that if I launch a 5.25"
application from the Finder the drive makes HORRIBLE sounds, but if I run it
ProDOS 8, or ProSel or whatever, it sounds normal?  And while I'm on the
subject, why is it my Apple 5.25" disk drive goes clack-clack-clatter-clatter-
bang...(at least that's what it sounds like to me) when it's searching for a
disk that ain't there, but the old DuoDisk on a IIe buzzes right by with MUCH
less noise (it's worst about 3:00am, when everyone else is asleep).
Just wondering....

Osiris

SAB121@PSUVM.BITNET (10/11/89)

In your posting you talk about the noise the drive makes.  When I started using
my GS the first thing I tried was to look at my old IIe 5.25" Prodos disks, and
sure enough, I got that same grinding noise.  Well, after I determined that it
had not eaten my disk, I unhooked my drive from the GS and tried it on the IIe'
s at school.  Sure 'nuff, no noise.  So I mentioned it to a friend who works at
the local computer store.  According to him, the noise is caused because the
timeing on the GS is just a little different from that of a IIe, which causes a
grinding sound as the disk is accessed.  Also according to him, this cannot hur
t the 5.25" disk in any way.

UD182050@VM1.NODAK.EDU (Mike Aos) (10/26/89)

OK, a couple more things here....
1.  I was told the Central Point 3.5" drive works on the Rom 0 IIgs's, but not
    the ROM 01, or ROM 03.  What's the deal there?
2.  In a related question.  Do or do not generic Mac 800K drives work on the
    IIgs?
3.  Can I use a Mac 40M internal HD externally on my IIgs?
4.  Do all CD ROMS use the High Seirra (sp) format?  By that I mean can the
    Apple CD-Rom player read IBM CD's?

Thats all for now.

Mike

farrier@Apple.COM (Cary Farrier) (10/27/89)

In article <8910260356.aa01009@SMOKE.BRL.MIL> UD182050@VM1.NODAK.EDU (Mike Aos) writes:
>4.  Do all CD ROMS use the High Seirra (sp) format?  By that I mean can the
>    Apple CD-Rom player read IBM CD's?

	Not all CD-ROMs are formatted under the High Sierra or ISO 9660
	(the ISO version of High Sierra), I have seen a number of ProDOS
	and HFS CD-ROMs.  The ones that are formatted under HS/ISO 9660
	you should be able to read.
>Mike

Cary
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jabernathy@pro-houston.cts.com (Joe Abernathy) (11/12/89)

In-Reply-To: message from UD161872@vm1.nodak.edu

Joe, and nearly everyone on the net, writes:
> I want a 13 MHz IIGS. How do I do it?

There are two ways to upgrade, one easy and one extremely difficult. I do not
recommend either and will in no way be responsible if you attempt an upgrade
and fail. It is possible to ruin a lot of expensive computer innards. The best
thing to do if you want a faster TransWarp GS is to wait for Applied
Engineering to announce an upgrade, because they will do so as soon as it is
feasible for them.

Beyond that, here's how:

8-10 MHz upgrade. TransWarp GS required. Call Western Design Center, order
their 10 MHz logic chip for the TWGS. Go to the electronics store, ask for a
32 MHz crystal oscillator a $2 part. The 32 MHz part is good for an 8 MHz GS;
for higher speeds, get a crystal oscillator rated 4 times as fast as the speed
you ultimately wish to achieve. Now look at your TransWarp. The ROM must be
version 1.5 or later; if not, you will have to get an upgrade from AE or
backward-engineer the ROM to remove AE's artificial 8 MHz speed barrier. With
the 1.5 or later ROM, put in the new crystal oscillator and the new logic
chip, and you should have a faster machine. No guarantees, all warranties
voided, no support from AE or anyone else.

Faster than 10 MHz. You will have to have one of WDC's experimental 12 MHz
chips, which are in short supply but available. (TWGS still required). You
will need a crystal oscillator suitable for the speed you wish to achieve, and
you should probably try one at 11, 12 and 13 MHz. They're cheap, so get one of
each. You'll need TWGS ROM v1.5 or later. Now it gets hard: You need to get 6
volts delivered from your power supply, which only delivers 5 volts.... and
I'm not electrician enough to tell you how. The experimental WDC logic chip
just won't run with 5, so this is quite necessary. Also, the original logic
chip on your IIGS motherboard cannot run at 6 volts, so you will have to
isolate it. Or in other words, desolder it from the motherboard. Put it all
together, and you may have a faster machine. Some run at 11, some 12, two of
them at 13 MHz. Some run not at all.

Results: Everybody with the 9 MHz machines seems to be having great luck. It's
a noticeable improvement in performance, and there are no reported instances
of failure. With anything faster, you really need a lot of technical
expertise, and you have to do a lot of cutting inside the machine ... it's not
worth it right now.

Credits: For this information, we owe our thanks to Bill and Andrew at Western
Design Center, and to Bill Heineman at Interplay Productions. You can show
your support for Bill H. by picking up a copy of his excellent new game,
Dragon Wars. He is the author of Bard's Tale 1 and 2 for the IIGS, and Dragon
Wars is every bit the successor you'd expect.

Further reading: My upcoming article on this subject in inCider magazine.

Joe Abernathy.


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rnf@shumv1.uucp (Rick Fincher) (11/13/89)

In article <2252.cortland.info-apple@pro-houston> jabernathy@pro-houston.cts.com (Joe Abernathy) writes:

>I'm not electrician enough to tell you how. The experimental WDC logic chip
>just won't run with 5, so this is quite necessary. Also, the original logic
>chip on your IIGS motherboard cannot run at 6 volts, so you will have to
>isolate it. Or in other words, desolder it from the motherboard. Put it all

What chip is this "logic chip"?  The processor is not soldered on the IIgs,
besides you have to pull it out to install the TransWarp GS.

Rick
rnf@shumv1.ncsu.edu

gtolar@pro-europa.cts.com (Glynne Tolar) (11/15/89)

In-Reply-To: message from shumv1!rnf@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu

>>I'm not electrician enough to tell you how. The experimental WDC logic chip
>>just won't run with 5, so this is quite necessary. Also, the original logic
>>chip on your IIGS motherboard cannot run at 6 volts, so you will have to
>>isolate it. Or in other words, desolder it from the motherboard. Put it all

I could not be called an electrician eather, however I studying electronics. 
I have a much simpler solution to the 6 volt problem.  Buy a seperate power
supply.  I've not seen how you do this modification but I think this is a much
easier answer and not all the expensive.  You also don't have to mod your GS!
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ericmcg@pro-generic.cts.com (Eric Mcgillicuddy) (11/18/89)

In-Reply-To: message from jabernathy@pro-houston.cts.com

The GS expansion mentioned is called 'pushing the processor' in this case it
is the board rather than the chip. You are taking advantage of error
tolerancess built into the system. You can only push these limits so far
before they break, about 10-20%. You forgot to mention the fan, make sure you
have an industrial strength fan, pushed systems are much more suseptible to
heat variations. 

p.s. this is what most cheap 386 clones tdo to get higher speeds.