[comp.sys.apple] WANTED: construction plans for serial card

mort@apollo.HP.COM (Stephen Moriarty) (11/15/89)

I'm just getting my new IIe online and need a serial card.
Although $50 is very reasonable for a new one, I can't believe
it's that difficult to build one for much less money. Any info on
magazine articles, sources for blank IIe circuit boards, etc.
would be greatly appreciated.

Also, I'd like a slotless clock circuit, too. Maybe there exists
a do-it-yourself version of the Serial-Pro card. Thanks.

Stephen
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blochowi@rt3.cs.wisc.edu (Jason Blochowiak) (11/17/89)

In article <46da0b3e.20b6d@apollo.HP.COM> mort@apollo.HP.COM (Stephen Moriarty) writes:
>I'm just getting my new IIe online and need a serial card.
>Although $50 is very reasonable for a new one, I can't believe
>it's that difficult to build one for much less money.

	It may not be all that difficult, but unless you want to write your
own terminal program to drive it, you'll probably have to make it compatible
with something - the most common serial card is the Super Serial card (or
clones).

>Any info on
>magazine articles, sources for blank IIe circuit boards, etc.
>would be greatly appreciated.
> [...]

	Uh, me too - I was also told that someone sold a bread board that stuck
into one of the slots. I'm working on something for the //gs with a friend,
and I'm just wondering if there's anyone out there that could give us some tips
or "things to avoid" in //e (or, preferably, //gs) card design. We'd at least
like to get past this without losing any motherboards ;) This will be a DMA
card as well, so any tips there would also be appreciated.

>Stephen
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mort@apollo.HP.COM (Stephen Moriarty) (11/18/89)

In article <3759@puff.cs.wisc.edu> blochowi@rt3.cs.wisc.edu (Jason Blochowiak) writes:
>	It may not be all that difficult, but unless you want to write your
>own terminal program to drive it, you'll probably have to make it compatible
>with something - 

	Absolutely.

>I'm just wondering if there's anyone out there that could give us some tips
>or "things to avoid" in //e (or, preferably, //gs) card design.

	jetzer@studsys.mu.edu pointed out that for starters, the
blank IIe circuit boards cost $30! This isn't necessarily a
consideration for you, but it does put a crimp in my "economy"
design.
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ericmcg@pro-generic.cts.COM (Eric Mcgillicuddy) (11/22/89)

In-Reply-To: message from puff!rt3.cs.wisc.edu!blochowi%speedy.wisc.edu@BRL.MIL

A suggestion for would be card designers.  Design a test jig first!! At Rye
High we used a 6809 single board computer with two STD slots slaved to a PC.
By the end of the year only one board functioned correctly. Most of the boards
had various address or data line burned either high or low. The technician
spent most of his time replacing 6522's as well (ever wonder what happens if
you tie RTR to +12V? Apparently you aren't the only one.)