[net.movies] Comfort and Joy

jeanne@ucla-cs.UUCP (11/13/84)

I saw Bill Forsyth's new movie Comfort and Joy last
night and it is both.  There's no problem about a
spoiler here, because it's almost impossible to talk
about Forsyth's movies (his others include Gregory's
Girl and Local Hero) without sounding crazy.  Out of
the context of the movie, the subjects sound
bizarre. Just a hint -- this movie is about a dj (in
Scotland -- Forsyth is Scottish) who, during the week
before Christmas, is deserted by his girlfriend with
no warning and gets involved in a war between rival ice
cream sellers.   I know it sounds weird, but if you
enjoy originality and a liberal touch of whimsy, you'll
enjoy this movie (as well as Forsyth's other two
movies).

schneider@vlnvax.DEC (12/05/84)

I feel I have to reply in defense of Bill Forsyth, who makes movies
I truly enjoy.  Based on her blanket statement below, Baby Sister
ought to stick to her movies of the Star Wars genre if she resents
being made to think a little...

> I saw comfort and joy in Chicago and walked out after the first hour.
> Unless you have an ice cream fetish, there is nothing of interest in
> the entire film.
>
> (Note:  I am just the sister of the person whose login appears on
>         this note and I am just visiting, so please do not respond.)

Before Comfort and Joy I also enjoyed Local Hero and Gregory's Girl
by Forsyth.  The latest two by this Scot (L.H. and C&J) I find stick
with me long after I've seen them in a manner few movies in the last
decade have.  No multi-million dollar budgets here, but LH offered
breathtaking views of the Scottish countryside while C&J explored a
bit of urban Scotland (perhaps Edinburgh).  I found a similar theme
across the two movies: very real, likeable people caught in absurd
situations and faced with decisions that the audience accompanies
them through.  The absurd is prominent but the lead roles take the
audience through it with a good-natured, toungue-in-cheek attitude.
Believe me, Comfort and Joy has a far wider appeal than the ice cream
fetish crowd.  What's more the original review here is the first
notion of dissent I've seen, read or heard to this or Forsyth's other
movies.

PS: There are no big name actors here but how many noticed Gregory's
best friend playing the garage mechanic who offered to bang out Dicky
Bird's dented BMW, and was Dicky Bird also in the Australian film, Don's
Party?
				Daniel Schneider
				DEC, Marlboro, MA
				{...vlnvax}::decwrl::rhea
				::vlnvax::schneider

whc@sftri.UUCP (W.H.Canilang) (12/07/84)

<Do I really gotta put this line here?>

I saw "Comfort and Joy" recently in Chicago and truly enjoyed this
delightful little Christmas card from Forsyth.  I have also seen "Gregory's
Girl" and "Local Hero", and "Comfort and Joy" just didn't seem to measure
up in my opinion.  Whereas "Gregory's Girl" is a tender, comical snapshot
of that 'awkward' period of growing up, and "Local Hero" casts a certain
mythical/mystical spell over the viewer, "Comfort and Joy" is simply
a delectable, disposable fluff.  Sure it's about someone finding that they
have an influence on people's lives around them but don't you think a
silly local ice cream skirmish compared to the problems of growing up or
the altering of people's lives as technology marches forward is a little
contrived?  Anyway, "Comfort and Joy" gets my (reserved) recommendation.  

For those interested, I read somewhere that Forsyth had conceived of
"Comfort and Joy" before doing "Gregory's Girl" but was unable to drum up
enough interest.  He did it now, after establishing his name/box office
potential(?) and evolving "Comfort and Joy"'s ideas into "Local Hero". 
There's also a pre-"Gregory's Girl" movie called "That Sinking Feeling"
that was around NYC last Christmas(?).  It has something to do with a bunch
of lads out to get themslves some glory by stealing sinks in and around
Glasgow(?).  I believe it featured a few of Forsyth's favorite actors (the
tall one who played Gregory and Ricky Tarr in "Local Hero"; the mop topped
one who played Gregory's Caracas-bound friend and auto mechanic in "C&J"). 
Forsyth had tried to block distribution, saying that it was not a mature
enough work.  I never saw it, but the N.Y. Times liked it.  Any one see it?

					Bill Canilang
					...ihnp4!attunix!whc