roberth@microsoft.UUCP (Robert Hess) (11/20/89)
I'm thinking about getting a hard drive for my GS... no, make that I'm
*going* to get a hard drive for my GS. Now the big question is, which
one?
At first, I was going to build my own, but after comparing costs, I
found that it wasn't *that* much more expensive to buy a factory built
one, thus getting a warranty, and technical support (hopefully).
So far, best 'bang for your buck' drive I have found, is from Ehman.
They even have a special 'Users Group' pricing, which is:
20mb $375
30+ $425 (ST138N)
45 $469 (ST157N)
60+ $549 (ST277N)
80+ $619 (ST296N)
So, my question is, before I (and others in my users group) take the
plunge, does anybody have any comments regarding the quality of Ehman,
or the Segate drives they use? Or Alternatives? I have heard some
mention of the fact that the 'Mac' documentation that Ehman sends with
their drives is confusing (but *we* don't need to worry about that!)
As well as a couple other 'dealing with the company' problems. But if
the hardware is good, and they honor their 2 year warranty, then to me
it sounds like a good deal.
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"...my opinions are strictly my own, and not those of my employer..."unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) (11/20/89)
In article <9090@microsoft.UUCP> roberth@microsoft.UUCP (Robert Hess) writes: > > I'm thinking about getting a hard drive for my GS... no, make that I'm > *going* to get a hard drive for my GS. Now the big question is, which > one? > So far, best 'bang for your buck' drive I have found, is from Ehman. > They even have a special 'Users Group' pricing, which is: > 20mb $375 > 30+ $425 (ST138N) > 45 $469 (ST157N) > 60+ $549 (ST277N) > 80+ $619 (ST296N) The prices you give are outrageous compared to deals I've seen. I'm seeing INCREDIBLE deals in the paper lately. I saw a 120 meg SCSI drive for about $800. But I think I'm gonna get either the removable CARTRIDGE drive (45 megs/cartridge) or the high capacity FLOPPY drive (20 megs/floppy...each floppy costs $10). I want something REMOVABLE so I don't have to back up to floppies. Unless you want to get ripped off, don't buy those drives. Or I guess you could consider it paying for a name or other things. -- unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu
dkl@pro-europa.cts.com (David Leikam) (11/21/89)
In-Reply-To: message from microsoft!roberth@uunet.uu.net In CS-ID: #8686.cortland/info-apple@pro-europa, microsoft!roberth@uunet.uu.net (Robert Hess) writes, > I'm thinking about getting a hard drive for my GS... no, make that I'm > *going* to get a hard drive for my GS. Now the big question is, which > one? > (Line muncher[****** > > So far, best 'bang for your buck' drive I have found, is from Ehman. > They even have a special 'Users Group' pricing, which is: > > 20mb $375 > 30+ $425 (ST138N) > 45 $469 (ST157N) > 60+ $549 (ST277N) > 80+ $619 (ST296N) Those sound line/probably are prices for bare drives. As such, they're not outstanding. I've seen better prices in Computer Shopper. I paid $419 for an ST157N. The price for the ST138N is _way_ out of line, though. By "bare drive", I mean you'll need to add a power supply and presumably, a case of some sort. This will add another $125 or so to the cost. (I used a power supply from a dead PC clone (Use # 997 for a Dead PC :) and didn't bother with a case. You can cut _some_ corners. But watch it! > So, my question is, before I (and others in my users group) take the > plunge, does anybody have any comments regarding the quality of Ehman, > or the Segate drives they use? Or Alternatives? .... I don't know anything of Ehman. The Seagate ST 1xxN series seems to be quite decent, and come with a 1 year factory warranty, which Seagate will honor even if the dealer does not, though it will cost you $35. Peanuts, relatively speaking. I've been very pleased with mine. However, I've been a great deal less pleased with the ST-238R, and the ST-255__ <No letter suffix) models. Both have gone through periods of nearly nonexistent QA. Neither are SCSI, but there _are_ adapters for 'em, to the //. Just say no. One point of info as a bonus for anyone who cares. In the drive designation, the ST-1 indicates that this is a 3.5" frame, while the ST-2 indicates a 5.25" frame. The trailing letter or absence thereof indicates the drive class or type, with R being RLL and N being SCSI. Blank indicates an MFM drive. Alas, advertisers often omit that last letter. Make sure of what you're buying... > ---- UUCP: {nosc, uunet!cacilj, sdcsvax, hplabs!hp-sdd, sun.com} ...!crash!pro-europa!dkl ARPA: crash!pro-europa!dkl@nosc.mil INET: dkl@pro-europa.cts.com - BITNET: pro-europa.uucp!dkl@psuvax1
roberth@microsoft.UUCP (Robert Hess) (11/25/89)
[A portion of my original posting regarding IIgs Hard Drives...] > > So far, best 'bang for your buck' drive I have found, is from Ehman. > > They even have a special 'Users Group' pricing, which is: > > > > 20mb $375 > > 30+ $425 (ST138N) > > 45 $469 (ST157N) > > 60+ $549 (ST277N) > > 80+ $619 (ST296N) [To which David Leikman (dkl@pro-europa.cts.com) replies:] > > Those sound line/probably are prices for bare drives. As such, they're not > outstanding. I've seen better prices in Computer Shopper. I paid $419 for an > ST157N. The price for the ST138N is _way_ out of line, though. > David, Correct, if those prices were for 'bare' drives, then they wouldn't be very good. But those are prices for COMPLETE drives, that means they include Drive, PowerSupply, Case, and SCSI Cable. All you need is the SCSI card and you are all set. Thus their price is amazingly good, but is it *too* good? Does anybody have any horror stories regarding Ehman? Or better yet, does anybody have any success stories regarding them. Heck, does anybody out there even HAVE and Ehman drive on their IIgs? __________________________________________________________________________ ##### ####### | Robert B. Hess, Microsoft Corp., Redmond, WA ###### ####### |----------------------------------------------------- ####### ####### | roberth@microsof.uu.net #### ##### #### | {decvax, uunet, uw-beaver}!microsof!roberth #### ### #### |_____________________________________________________ "...my opinions are strictly my own, and not those of my employer..."
lvirden@pro-tcc.cts.COM (Larry Virden) (11/25/89)
In-Reply-To: message from microsoft!roberth@uunet.uu.net
Another comperable question would be - if you DO know of SPECIFIC ads which
have better prices please let us know about them!
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CIS: 75046,606emerrill@tippy.uucp (11/27/89)
/* Written 8:06 pm Nov 19, 1989 by roberth@microsoft in tippy:apple */ > I'm thinking about getting a hard drive for my GS... no, make that I'm > *going* to get a hard drive for my GS. Now the big question is, which > one? > So far, best 'bang for your buck' drive I have found, is from Ehman. > They even have a special 'Users Group' pricing, which is: A guy in my user group was talking (this past summer) about his bad experience with Ehman. Apparantly, they claimed their drives were compatible with all IIgs w/Apple's SCSI card, but the drive he received didn't work with his IIgs. It didn't work with the dealer's IIgs, nor his friend's. He sent it back in and a few months later received another one which didn't work. He returned it and after much hassle and many toll phone calls received his money back. (BTW, the drives worked flawlessly with Macs...) One of his techie friends thought it was some kind of problem with the drive being improperly terminated. I was kind of disappointed, 'cause I was shopping for a hard drive and thought that Ehman's drives looked like real bargains. I finally got a 40 meg Vulcan from AE and am satisfied 'cept for the lack of space. :-) _________________________________________________________ | | | Eric Merrill tippy!emerrill@newton.physics.purdue.edu | | | | My other witty .sig is in the shop being repaired. | |_________________________________________________________|
UD041948@VM1.NODAK.EDU (Joe Carlin) (11/29/89)
Could it be the Ehman drives aren't _low_ level formatted for your GS? They come formatted for Mac's, don't they? Joe "The not-so-innocent bystander"