eldorado@EN.ECN.PURDUE.EDU (David D Jansen) (11/30/89)
Keywords: Zip, BASIC, GIF In regards to the recent flame on Zip Tech, I agree, they do have a service problem but so far I have not had any problem with my Zip chip 4Mhz. Sure, it took 2 months but it was well worth the wait. I am satisfied except now I wish I had a 8Mhz chip but I can live with the system I have now.:^) Now for the good stuff! Does anyone know of a good (fast, cheap, maybe PD) BASIC compiler for prodos. I have one for 3.3 but that just won't do the trick. Basic is getting to slow. Also, a friend of mine is a technical arts major and does some great!! graphics on his Atari ST and I think it would be excellent if we could change them to GIFS and print them on my color printer. So I am searching for a program to convert ST pictures to GIFS. If I can get a program to do this...I'll upload a few. I have been convinced by the discussion on keyboards to try Dvorak so if my typing in a few weeks is terrible, you'll know why. Dave Jansen (The Gilded One) eldorado@en.ecn.purdue.edu "I'm a self-made man who worships his creator"
gk398816@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (guy kendall) (11/30/89)
>Also, a friend of mine is a technical arts major and does some great!! graphics >on his Atari ST and I think it would be excellent if we could change them to >GIFS and print them on my color printer. So I am searching for a program to >convert ST pictures to GIFS. If I can get a program to do this...I'll upload >a few. If you have a GS then you can send the Atari ST pics directly over to your GS and use SHRConvert to view them. It will read in a bunch of Atari ST formats though I can't remember which ones off hands. The ST has the same graphics modes as the GS so they look the same as far as I can tell. You don't need to convert them to GIF's first. I was never able to find a program that would convert ST pics to GIF anyway. Guy Kendall
cyliao@eng.umd.edu (Chun-Yao Liao) (11/30/89)
A friend of mine made a bench mark between Beagle Compiler (ProDOS) and TASC from MicroSoft (Dos 3.3). The result was that the programs compiled with Beagle Compiler run about 1.5 to 5 times faster then the programs compiled by TASC. In one special case, it was 10 times faster. However, using the Beagle Compiler does not show improvemet of speed on math functions such as TAN, SIN, etc One more option to consider is that Beagle Compiler supports both Apple slot memory or AE auxiliar memory. Best of all, the Beagle Compiler compile your basic program in memory in few seconds! I don't remember if Beagle Compiler is listed in Beagle's oldies which are free to download from Pro-Beagle, but if so, then I think it is the best choice for you to consider. Chun --cyliao@wam.umd.edu
UD041948@VM1.NODAK.EDU (Joe Carlin) (11/30/89)
About the guy with the ST graphics, not only can you load ST graphics on your GS and view them with SHRConvert, but with v2.1 you can save them as GIF files and share them with your IBM, Mac, and Amiga friends too. Did anyone know if this guy was gonna come out with a newer version? It's an excellent program, and a new version would surely be welcome in my home. v2.1 had some of the things he was planning on implementing (like printing directly from SHRConvert) that I'd really love. Joe
buchho@studsys.mu.edu (buchho) (12/01/89)
In article <1989Nov29.205958.2143@eng.umd.edu> cyliao@eng.umd.edu (Chun-Yao Liao) writes about AppleSoft compilers... >A friend of mine made a bench mark between Beagle Compiler (ProDOS) and [text deleted] >Chun >--cyliao@wam.umd.edu Well, I do agree that the Beagle Compiler far outdoes TASC in both perform- ance and ease of use... But... My main gripe about it is that it doesn't support the use of extended commands through the ampersand... Many of my programs use this... Isn't there a compiler out there that'll support the ampersand? -- [][][][][][][][][][][][][][]______________________________________________ [] Jacob S. Buchholz [] Mary had a little roach, it lived behind the | [] buchho@studsys.mu.edu [] stove. And every time that Mary cooked, the | [][][][][][][][][][][][][][] roach would warm his toes... |
cbdougla@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Collin Broadrick Douglas) (12/01/89)
In article <703@studsys.mu.edu> buchho@studsys.UUCP (buchho) writes: >In article <1989Nov29.205958.2143@eng.umd.edu> cyliao@eng.umd.edu > (Chun-Yao Liao) writes about AppleSoft compilers... > >>A friend of mine made a bench mark between Beagle Compiler (ProDOS) and > [text deleted] >>Chun >>--cyliao@wam.umd.edu > >Well, I do agree that the Beagle Compiler far outdoes TASC in both perform- >ance and ease of use... But... My main gripe about it is that it doesn't >support the use of extended commands through the ampersand... Many of my >programs use this... Isn't there a compiler out there that'll support the >ampersand? > >-- >[][][][][][][][][][][][][][]______________________________________________ >[] Jacob S. Buchholz [] Mary had a little roach, it lived behind the | >[] buchho@studsys.mu.edu [] stove. And every time that Mary cooked, the | >[][][][][][][][][][][][][][] roach would warm his toes... | I thought it was possible to use the ampersand with the Beagle COmpiler? I just heard it was possible I've only used the Compiler a little. No, I don't have a copy. Collin Douglas cbdougla@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu P.S. Are they still available and for how much?
dan@pro-nebulous.UUCP (Dan Jones) (12/01/89)
In-Reply-To: message from cyliao@eng.umd.edu
I hear good things about the Beagle Compiler, but no matter how you look at
it, you're still dealing with Applesoft. Applesoft has served me well, but if
you really want to have some fun, get ZBasic! ZBasic is compiled, fast, and
run circles around Applesoft.
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In article <703@studsys.mu.edu> buchho@studsys.UUCP (buchho) asks: > Isn't there a [Applesoft] compiler out there that'll support the >ampersand? Supporting the ampersand is not as easy as you think. If you ever passed any arguments to the &, this means that the machine language subroutine which handled the & vector had to be able to get at the source code of your program so it could parse what came next (variable names, etc.). When you compile a program, the source code isn't there any more. -- Raymond Chen raymond@math.berkeley.edu | In general, it's very hard to mathematician by training, | protect oneself against omnipotent hacker by choice | beings. -- Barry Margolin