Donnaruma@HI-MULTICS.ARPA (09/25/87)
Can someone elaborate further on what they meant about this program not working with the new ROMs. I just purchased it and then heard this. I still may be able to cancel the order. HI-MULTICS
Donnaruma@HI-MULTICS.ARPA (11/10/87)
I would really like to run this program from my hard disk but with the
copy protection I can't. If somebody has the patch to unprotect it I
would appreciate it. Please respond via e-mail.
Thanks in advance..............Donnaruma at Hi-MulticsDSEAH@WPI.BITNET (04/05/88)
I recently bought Music Studio GS, and here are some initial reactions to version 2.0. I haven't used it much yet, so this will be pretty dry. Unlike Music Construction Set, Music Studio allows up to 15 separate instruments at a time. MCS is limited to two. It support Apple MIDI in addition to the Passport MIDI interface. It also supports separate recording track. If you can't read music, there is a "music paintbox" that represents note duration by the size of a block on the score. Different instruments are represented by color. A sound envelope editor for instruments allows you to modify attack, decay, sustain and release. You can not draw a waveform and hear it play. You can only change the sound envelope. You can have repeats, triplets, dotted notes, and inverted notes too. The interface is mousebased in what looks like 640x200 mode with dithered colors. You can cut and paste measures anywhere. The package comes with the unprotected program disk and an additional Songs and Instruments disk. There are synthesized and digitized waveforms to choose from. The digitized waveforms are pretty big (up to 64K) and limit the number of instruments you can have. Instruments from Instant Music can be used, but there are some compatibility problems. The program is a little on the slow side when it comes to manipulating notes. It takes upwards to 3 seconds for the computer to redraw notes on the screen when you "scroll" through the measures. Should be no problem when Apple puts some *&!$@ speed in the GS. The program plays notes while you are figuring out where to put something in the measures. I think you can turn this off. Overall, the program is pretty decent as a regular music composition program. There are not many things in the way of special effects like volume sliders, pitch benders or LFO modulation. I would really like to see a GS program that can do this. I think that MCS has better sound output, but that is because Music Studio comes with zilcho demo songs. The fugues and canons sound a little disorted, and the contemporary stuff is written either by some dude named Chris French or (shudder) Ed Bogas. They are nice little ho-hum generic jazz songs, but they all sound the same and simple compared to the songs in Activision's Winter Games GS. MCS demo songs blow Music Studio away. I wish I had waited for Deluxe Music Construction Set. Music Studio is still a more complete program than MCS in my opinion. I suspect that there will be a Music Studio -> Deluxe MCS comparison equivalent to Paintworks Plus -> Deluxe Paint II. Dave Seah - Worcester Polytechnic Institute | Bitnet: DSeah@WPI.Bitnet | Apples Rock! // | Internet: DSeah%WPI.Bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU | // Zap!
taro@uhccux.UUCP (Taro Nobusawa) (04/08/88)
In article <8804042308.AA05984@wpi.local> DSEAH@WPI.BITNET writes: >I recently bought Music Studio GS, and here are some initial reactions >to version 2.0. I haven't used it much yet, so this will be pretty >dry. What's the diffs between this version and the original? Besides it being able to work on new version ROMS. I've read stuff in their adds that dynamics can n be changed in the middle of the piece, as can key signature, is this in this version, 2.0? This would be great news, that was one of the major shor- commings I found with the original version. > The package comes with the unprotected program >disk and an additional Songs and Instruments disk. There are >synthesized and digitized waveforms to choose from. The digitized >waveforms are pretty big (up to 64K) and limit the number of >instruments you can have. Instruments from Instant Music can be used, >but there are some compatibility problems. This sounds interesting! Anyone know how to sample your own sounds and use them in Music Studio? That would be great! I have the SuperSonic digitizer and next to nothing to use it for. Overall, the program is pretty decent >as a regular music composition program. There are not many things in >the way of special effects like volume sliders, pitch benders or >LFO modulation. I would really like to see a GS program that can do >this. I think that MCS has better sound output, but that is because >Music Studio comes with zilcho demo songs. The fugues and canons sound I think alot of the MCS samples sound much better/realistic. I was tempted to buy MCS because of this, but Music Studio was more powerful for inputing complex pieces. I'd like to see what Deluxe MCS can do. >a little disorted, and the contemporary stuff is written either by >some dude named Chris French or (shudder) Ed Bogas. They are nice little >ho-hum generic jazz songs, but they all sound the same and simple >compared to the songs in Activision's Winter Games GS. MCS demo songs ^^^^^^^^^^,by Epyx, isn't it, is Epyx owned by Activision? Yes! that music is awesome! >blow Music Studio away. I wish I had waited for Deluxe Music Construction >Set. Is the GS version of Dluxe MCS out?? I haven't seen mention of it anywhere yet. I've resisted the urge to buy MCS because I'm waiting for Deluxe to come out, I have the first version of Music Studio right now and find it well suited for my needs. > Dave Seah - Worcester Polytechnic Institute -- "Mad as a hen wetter...goodbye and good day. THPPT" -Opus Taro Nobusawa taro@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu taro@uhccux.BITNET Compu$erve 71071,322 {ihnp4,uunet,ucbvax}!ucsd!nosc!uhccux!taro
DSEAH@WPI.BITNET (04/11/88)
Here is a more complete rundown of Music Studio GS 2.0, right off the package: Over 15 new features o Real time MIDI input/output o Over 20 new digitized sounds o Change key signatures anywhere o Change volume and tempo at any time o Change note stem direction o Merge songs together o Automatically insert measure bars o "Jukebox" plays multiple songs o Change note duration automatically automatically Supports the following MIDI interfaces: Apple MIDI Interface, Opcode Studio Plus Two & The Professional Plus, Passport MNIDI Interface, for Apple II (MIDI out only) I goofed when I said that Winter Games GS was by Activision. Epyx really is the publisher. And the music is still awesome.
RXBROWN@UALR.BITNET ("MR.FANTASTIC") (12/05/89)
Philip McDunnough writes...... >This may be related: Test Drive II gives a "fragmented memory" error message >when I tyr to run it. I don't know about Music Studio, but Test Drive II does not like ram drives.. Robert Brown Bitnet: RXBROWN@UALR America online: ROBPHD
rankins@zaire.crd.ge.com (raymond r rankins) (12/05/89)
Speaking of Music Studio, does anyone know if they are going to come out with Music Studio 3.0 for the IIGS? I saw it in an ad for Electronics Boutique for the IBM. It looked pretty nice with multiple staves and a bunch of features. A lot more professional looking than Music Studio 2.0. BTW, has anyone been in an Electronics Boutique that had a decent selection of Apple software? The ones around here (Albany, NY area) have to have one of the worst I've seen, and getting worse. They now have all Apple //, IIGS and Mactinosh stuff mixed together in one tiny section labeled "Apple", yet they have half a wall devoted to Commodore 64/128. And the stuff they do have is only the most recently released stuff (primarily games). If you want anything released a year ago, good luck. They also appear to have stopped carrying any Apple related magazines. I really don't understand their actions, because when I used to work for them in Maryland a couple of years ago, the majority of the customers that came in were looking for Apple software, most of which we didn't carry. If they carried more Apple software, maybe they would see an increase in sales, but with poor selection, people are obviously going to go elsewhere. I'd like to support the local retailers, but these types of actions only force me to purchase from the mail order companies where I can get selection as well as best price. Sorry, I'll get off my soapbox now. I think I'll send similar comments along to the head of the company. Ray --- Ray Rankins | (518) 387-7340 | INTERNET: rankins@zaire.crd.ge.com 2 Moonglow Rd. | (518) 583-3320 | COMPUSERVE: 71131,3236 Gansevoort, NY 12831 | | AmericaOnline: RayRankins <insert standard disclaimer here>
ST802148@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (Evan) (12/06/89)
In responce to the comment about Electronics Boutique, I had the same thing happen to me in a mall by me (Nanuet, NY). I went in expecting to find a wall of Apple software, as usual. I looked at the top of the shelves for a label saying APPLE, but only found stretches of IBM, AMIGA, and C64. I asked someone where the apple software was and they directed me to the rear of the store, where a small corner had 2 shelves of Apple Software. And it wasn't like the wares were separated by function (games/word processing/etc). No, rather they were thrown together like I was at a garage sale, or discontiued cheap software that was put in a bin. I was totally outraged. The future of the // line looks dim.... (Oh, the GS had its own, well stocked region.)
rankins@zaire.crd.ge.com (raymond r rankins) (12/06/89)
In article <8912051720.AA08252@apple.com> ST802148@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (Evan) writes: >dim.... (Oh, the GS had its own, well stocked region.) Really? The ones around here don't even have a good stock of IIGS stuff other than the latest games. Question, why do these mall stores carry so much Commodore 64/128 stuff? Are there that many more Commodore owners than Apple owners to justify this? If retail stores still keep supporting dinosaurs like the Commodore 64, why is the Apple II line getting such poor retail support? Ray --- Ray Rankins | (518) 387-7340 | INTERNET: rankins@zaire.crd.ge.com 2 Moonglow Rd. | (518) 583-3320 | COMPUSERVE: 71131,3236 Gansevoort, NY 12831 | | AmericaOnline: RayRankins <insert standard disclaimer here>
yk4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Yong Su Kim) (12/06/89)
Speaking of GS software, there have been more releases than the ones advertised in the magazines. I have seen copies of several new games such as Keef the Thief, Life and Death, Firepower GS, Prince of Persia, Tunnels of Armageddon etc. It seems that software development for the GS has received low advertising priority but there is still support for GS software which can only be good news. _____________________________________________________________________________ |Internet: yk4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu |||||||||||Yong Su Kim|||||||||||| |Bitnet : yk4@cunixc |||||The Korean from Hong Kong|||| |UUCP : uunet!rutgers!columbia!cunixc!yk4 |||||||...Apple IIGS user...|||||| |____________________________________________||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn) (12/07/89)
In article <2370@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu> yk4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Yong Su Kim) writes: >Speaking of GS software, there have been more releases than the ones >advertised in the magazines. I have seen copies of several new games >such as Keef the Thief, Life and Death, Firepower GS, Prince of >Persia, Tunnels of Armageddon etc. >It seems that software development for the GS has received low >advertising priority but there is still support for GS software which >can only be good news. One has to wonder what is going on, though. I was playing Keef the Thief (highly recommended) for several days before the latest QuestBusters arrived with a review of the game. The IIGS was not even listed among the "planned conversions" (the IBM version was reviewed). Has anybody managed to successfully perform the appendectomy in Life and Death? I keep getting told I didn't perform a Burney's incision on the peritoneum even though I always snip it with scissors in the proper direction using the recommended technique.
jpapo@pro-realm.cts.com (Jeff Papo) (12/08/89)
In-Reply-To: message from rankins@zaire.crd.ge.com
Yes i agree, It unfortunatly seems that electronics Botique Really has little
to no selection. I have been To 2 albany malls a couple of weeks ago and
noticed the same thing. Down here in Poughkeepsie NY it is the same way, In
many stores Apple is not supported very well...
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