[comp.sys.apple] MUSIC

todd0@pro-abyss.cts.com (Todd Cermak) (10/02/89)

  Hi, I need alittle help here.  I'm in a band and I'm getting a new keyboard
this christmas (probably a Roland) and it will have a MIDI interface.  I was
wondering, what is exactly needed for complete MIDI connection?  And are there
any programs in which the keyboard can be directly used with the computer to
create rythems and beats, and not to mention music?  Any help would be greatly
appreciated.  By the way, I have an Apple IIgs.

-Todd

  ps - Please respond to me by e-mail, because the info-apple feed isn't
sending all of the messages from where it gets the feed from.


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sb@pro-generic.cts.com (Stephen Brown) (10/13/89)

Network Comment: to #5699 by todd0@pro-abyss.cts.com

> wondering, what is exactly needed for complete MIDI connection? And are

You will need a MIDI interface, such as the PASSPORT MIDI Interface, or the
Apple MIDI Interface, and 2 Male-DIN-5 to Male-DIN-5 cables (included with the
Apple product).  Then it's just a matter of booting your software, switching
the keyboard to MIDI, and keeping the volume at a moderate level.

There is some MIDI software specifically for the IIgs: DiversiTune (a "must"),
Instant Synth (fancy, but not worth it), Music Studio 2.0 (not bad),
MusicWriter (not worth it), Master Tracks Jr. (okay), but not too much else. A
product called "Deluxe Music Construction Set" was mentioned in a piece of
promotional literature for the IIgs when the machine first came out but the
software is still not available. Music Contruction Set (GS) is almost useless
for MIDI applications.

An alternative to buying a MIDI interface would be to build one. An article in
AUGE's "User Magazin" (Feb 89) explains how Apple's is made (parts available
under $20) or you can build a "better than the real thing" MIDI interface in
a few evenings reading "Build Your Own MIDI Adapter for the IIgs and
Macintosh" in LOGIC's Maple Orchard Oct/Nov. 89.
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MIKEL@TOPS20.RADC.AF.MIL (10/19/89)

Network Comment: to #5699 by todd0ro-abyss.cts.com

> wondering, what is exactly neg{ded for complete MIDI connection? 

Just a few personal comments to supplement the response by Stephen Brown...
Passport has always been outstandingly supportive of my queries and
concerns before I even bought anything from them.  Feel free to ask their
folks ANY questions you might have.  They've released MasterTracks Pro for
the IIGS at long last.  It's a remarkable package if you think you might
get heavily into playing around with music (due to its correspondingly
high pricetag - look at mail order companies).  When I talked to Passport
about ordering it, though, it came out that the MIDI card I had (a very
good one from Passport) wasn't enough to support MT Pro.  Seems that
something about the II GS didn't support all of the features MT Pro used.
[Note: This happened a while ago.  Sorry I can't remember the details, but
I wanted to get a response out to todd asap.]  In the ensuing discussion,
the Passport person mentioned that many of the newer MIDI interfaces were
using the serial port.  As a result, any external interface built for the
(ready?) Mac could be used by the II GS.  Without commenting on the
relative merits of the Mac, suffice it to say that at the time there
was a greater selection of interfaces for the Mac than for the II GS.
After confirming compatibility, I purchased a wonderful box from OpCode at
slightly only slightly more than a much less capable II GS box.  In
summary, an internal interface may be less clutter, but it does tend to
tie you to the particular computer (for better or worse).  For cable
compatability, get a box for the Mac SE (I think that's right).  Hope this
helps and good luck!
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philip.mcdunnough@canremote.uucp (PHILIP MCDUNNOUGH) (12/14/89)

Sorry to repeat this posting, but does ANYONE know how to get Music
Studio 2.0 to work on a ROM03 GS? This product will not be upgraded by
Mediagenic(I called them today) in order to support ROM03(nor will it be
upgraded to support System 5). Since this is similar to PaintWorks Gold
is there not a patch that will allow it to run. At this point I feel
that I would have been better off with a ROM01 GS. At least the products 
of those companies no longer supporting the GS would run.
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