js7@CUNIXA.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Jackson) (08/09/89)
Does anyone have the address or phone number for MDIdeas? They sell the OctoRam and Conserver for the Apple IIgs. Thanks in advance. Jackson -- js7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
throoph@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Henry Throop) (08/09/89)
In article <CMM.0.88.618609302.js7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu> js7@CUNIXA.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Jackson) writes: > >Does anyone have the address or phone number for MDIdeas? They sell >the OctoRam and Conserver for the Apple IIgs. Thanks in advance. I believe that the Conserver is now sold by Applied Engineering, and not MDIdeas. I don't know if that means that they are no longer in business, or just not too active. In any event, you might try them at: 1163 Triton Drive Foster City, CA 94044 (800) 843-5772, (415) 573-0580) Henry Throop Internet: throoph@jacobs.cs.orst.edu
gt0t+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Gregory Ross Thompson) (09/06/89)
No, I don't think they've gone out of buisness yet, or at least I hope not.
They're repairing my Conservor right now (for the second time. I'm peeved),
and I asked AE (who now sells he conservor) if they had bought MDIdeas, and
they responded with a "Nope", so my guess is that they're still around.
BTW: Since no-one seems to have the init file I need to make my CMC drive
work, does anyone have the number for CMS's support line?
-Greg T.dale@pro-colony.cts.com (System Operator) (09/07/89)
> Network Comment: to #9667 by rewing@apple.com > > MDIdeas has not gone out of business, as far as I know. I have an OctoRAM > card from them that was purchased in June. Strange that they no longer > advertise the OctoRAM, nor do most mail order places carry it, but I've > got one, and it has 4 meg on board and performs flawlessly. We still > have dealerships that stock their other products, so I think news of their > death is a little premature. MDIdeas has gone out of business. Applied Engineering is now selling the Conserver Fan for the IIGS. ============================================================================== proline: dale@pro-colony uucp : crash!pnet01!pro-colony!dale inet : crash!dale@pro-colony.cts.com arpa : crash!pnet01!pro-colony!dale@nosc.mil ============================================================================== >>> pro-colony 214/370-7056 24 hours <<<
yk4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Yong Su Kim) (12/11/89)
I have a MDIdeas OCTORAM with 256K X 4 SIMMS and I would like some detail about purchasing extra SIMMS for my GS. The problem is that I have heard that MDIdeas is out of business. Does anyone know more about this? IF they are out of business, I would appreciate it if someone could send me the full technical specifications for the type of SIMMS used in the OCTORAM. Thanks. _____________________________________________________________________________ |Internet: yk4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu |||||||||||Yong Su Kim|||||||||||| |Bitnet : yk4@cunixc |||||The Korean from Hong Kong|||| |UUCP : uunet!rutgers!columbia!cunixc!yk4 |||||||...Apple IIGS user...|||||| |____________________________________________||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
rnf@shumv1.uucp (Rick Fincher) (12/12/89)
In article <2423@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu> yk4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Yong Su Kim) writes: >I have a MDIdeas OCTORAM with 256K X 4 SIMMS and I would like some >detail about purchasing extra SIMMS for my GS. >The problem is that I have heard that MDIdeas is out of business. Does >anyone know more about this? >IF they are out of business, I would appreciate it if someone could >send me the full technical specifications for the type of SIMMS used >in the OCTORAM. > They are 1 meg by 8, or 256K by 8 (8 chips on the card). They need to be at least 150ns which is not a problem, since most are 120 or faster these days. If they work on the Mac they'll work on the IIgs with the OctoRam. I got two free megs from Mac users who had upgraded and couldn't use their 256K SIMMs anymore, so you might want to check around because a lot of these are lying around in drawers. Some dealers that do memory upgrades also keep the old 256K SIMMs and they might sell them cheap. If you buy, get 1 meg SIMMs. Each SIMM gives you a meg, up to 8 meg with the OctoRam. The lowest prices I've seen are 1 meg for $78 each, 256K for $25 from Peripheral Outlet (800) 332-6581. They will also buy your old SIMMs. The Chip Merchant has 1 meg, 80ns for $79 (800) 426-6375. Prices are dropping almost daily. The only other thing you need to worry about is whether they are low profile. These use shorter chips so that they don't stick out as much (for add in piggyback card space limits in the Mac Plus and SE). This might be a factor if you've got a card in slot 7. The 1 meg SIMMs are cheaper per bit and use less power per bit (less heat too). The OctoRam can only have one type of SIMM on it though, either 256K or 1 meg but not both, so to use 1 meg SIMMs you'll have to scrap your old ones. You can sell them to other OctoRam users though, and the 1 meg's leave room on your card for future expansion. Rick Fincher rnf@shumv1.ncsu.edu
rnf@shumv1.uucp (Rick Fincher) (12/12/89)
In article <1989Dec11.210007.24245@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> rnf@shumv1.ncsu.edu (Rick Fincher) writes: > >I got two free megs from Mac users who had upgraded and couldn't use their >256K SIMMs anymore, so you might want to check around because a lot of >these are lying around in drawers. Some dealers that do memory upgrades >also keep the old 256K SIMMs and they might sell them cheap. I have 2 256K SIMMs that I can't use (mine's full), you can have them cheap if you want them. >The OctoRam can only have one type of SIMM on it though, either 256K or >1 meg but not both, so to use 1 meg SIMMs you'll have to scrap your old >ones. You can sell them to other OctoRam users though, and the 1 meg's >leave room on your card for future expansion. One other thing, you can have 1, 2, 4, or 8 SIMMs on the OctoRam, either 1 meg or 256K, so don't buy expecting to put 3 or 5 SIMMS on the card. > Rick Fincher rnf@shumv1.ncsu.edu
jazzman@claris.com (Sydney R. Polk) (12/12/89)
From article <1989Dec11.211732.24609@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu>, by rnf@shumv1.uucp (Rick Fincher): > In article <1989Dec11.210007.24245@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> rnf@shumv1.ncsu.edu (Rick Fincher) writes: >> >>I got two free megs from Mac users who had upgraded and couldn't use their >>256K SIMMs anymore, so you might want to check around because a lot of >>these are lying around in drawers. Some dealers that do memory upgrades >>also keep the old 256K SIMMs and they might sell them cheap. > > I have 2 256K SIMMs that I can't use (mine's full), you can have them cheap > if you want them. > >>The OctoRam can only have one type of SIMM on it though, either 256K or >>1 meg but not both, so to use 1 meg SIMMs you'll have to scrap your old >>ones. You can sell them to other OctoRam users though, and the 1 meg's >>leave room on your card for future expansion. > > One other thing, you can have 1, 2, 4, or 8 SIMMs on the OctoRam, either > 1 meg or 256K, so don't buy expecting to put 3 or 5 SIMMS on the card. > >> > Rick Fincher > rnf@shumv1.ncsu.edu You also have to set your jumpers correctly to tell the card what you put on it. If you need more info, I think I still have my one page manual that came with my card two years ago ... -- Syd Polk | Wherever you go, there you are. jazzman@claris.com | Let the music be your light. GO 'STROS! | These opinions are mine. Any resemblence to other GO RICE! | opinions, real or fictitious, is purely coincidence.
gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn) (12/12/89)
In article <1989Dec11.210007.24245@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> rnf@shumv1.ncsu.edu (Rick Fincher) writes: >Each SIMM gives you a meg, up to 8 meg with the OctoRam. I've heard various warnings that the OctoRAM may be incompatible with DMA peripherals (such as AST's video digitizer) in some configurations (possibly only if configured for more than 4Mbytes). Could somebody who knows for sure clarify this? Just which OctoRAM configurations don't properly support DMA, and what if anything can be done about it?
rnf@shumv1.uucp (Rick Fincher) (12/13/89)
In article <10740@claris.com> jazzman@claris.com (Sydney R. Polk) writes: >You also have to set your jumpers correctly to tell the card what you put >on it. If you need more info, I think I still have my one page manual >that came with my card two years ago ... Syd, Have you heard anything about the status of MDIdeas? Are they still in business? Also, when I got my OctoRam at AppleFest 2 years ago the MDIdeas folks were saying that their card worked with DMA throughout the entire 8 meg memory range. They said they didn't know why and neither did Apple. Has anyone verified that? Does anyone use the card with the Cache Card, InnerDrive or other DMA devices? If so how does it perform? Rick Fincher rnf@shumv1.ncsu.edu
blochowi@rt5.cs.wisc.edu (Jason Blochowiak) (12/13/89)
In article <2423@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu> yk4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Yong Su Kim) writes: >The problem is that I have heard that MDIdeas is out of business. Does >anyone know more about this? They aren't out of business - I publicly retracted that statement awhile back. Unless, of course, they've died within the last month or two, which is possible, if unlikely. However, I should note that they fumbled with my order for awhile (first their credit card machine died, and then when I Express Mail'ed my Cashier's Check to them, it sat at their postal drop site for about a week...). I was rather annoyed that I had ~$200 of RAM sitting in my Apt doing absolutely nothing waiting on a ~$100 card. Oh, well, they were polite about it. >IF they are out of business, I would appreciate it if someone could >send me the full technical specifications for the type of SIMMS used >in the OCTORAM. As someone else pointed out, you can use Mac SIMMs. The guy I talked to at MDIdeas says that you can use IBM SIMMs (which have 9 chips per SIMM, as opposed to 8), but that you'd be wasting your money, as it won't use the last chip (which, I believe, is used for parity checking in IBM machines). I personally have two 1Mb SIMMs, they're 80ns Samsung's. They're low profile, and they still got RFC (really darn close) to whatever I had in slot 7 when I installed it. >|Internet: yk4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu |||||||||||Yong Su Kim|||||||||||| -- Jason Blochowiak - blochowi@garfield.cs.wisc.edu or jason@madnix.uucp "Education, like neurosis, begins at home." - Milton R. Sapirstein
gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn) (12/14/89)
In article <4028@puff.cs.wisc.edu> blochowi@rt5.cs.wisc.edu (Jason Blochowiak) writes: > I personally have two 1Mb SIMMs, they're 80ns Samsung's. They're low >profile, and they still got RFC (really darn close) to whatever I had in slot >7 when I installed it. I found that I had to insert an insulator between the memory card and my slot 7 card (SCSI interface in my case). I used a business card..