jabernathy@pro-houston.cts.com (Joe Abernathy) (11/11/89)
In-Reply-To: message from jm7e+@andrew.cmu.edu > I hope that if this GS Hypercard thing is true, they get help from Roger > Wagner, as his HyperStudio is too nice a package. Yes, HyperStudio is nice, and Roger Wagner himself is terrific. But HyperStudio IS NOT Hypercard, and we would have had HyperCard a year ago, according to my sources, if Apple had not agreed to give RW some breathing room to make a profit from his product, which happened along at a critical moment. Personally, I've had good software buried before by announcements of similar p[roducts by megacompanies, and so I don't have a lot of sympathy for Roger Wagner. If his company had a product as good as or better than Hypercard, it should not be afraid to compete in the open market. Otherwise, it would seem that federal antitrust laws have been violated. As have we. Joe Abernathy UUCP: crash!pro-houston!jabernathy ARPA: crash!pro-houston!jabernathy@nosc.mil INET: jabernathy@pro-houston.cts.com
lvirden@pro-tcc.cts.com (Larry Virden) (11/12/89)
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Does anyone know of a way for a person who doesnt own HyperStudio to
be able to 'use' the stacks? I mean, I have programs which play Music Studio
files, I have programs to display paint files, I have programs to read text
files - one doesnt HAVE to own many programs to make use of the output from
them. It just seems like in an educational environment, requiring all
students to pay $99 or more to be able to use the educational stacks that a
teacher might write is a bit much in today's society - if I cannot afford that
much, I would guess that many parents cannot either.
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CIS: 75046,606gentrys@ingr.com (Scott Gentry) (11/14/89)
In article <2406.feeds.info-apple@pro-tcc>, lvirden@pro-tcc.cts.com (Larry Virden) writes: > In-Reply-To: message from jabernathy@pro-houston.cts.com > > Does anyone know of a way for a person who doesnt own HyperStudio to > be able to 'use" the stacks? Larry, In a short reply, yes. An AFL on America Online is working on licensing the demonstration version for uploading and user downloading. The difference in versions (full vs. demo) is standard, you can't save with the demo. > -- > Larry W. Virden ProLine: pro-tcc!lvirden > 674 Falls Place Work: lvirden@cas.bitnet > Reynoldsburg, OH 43068-1614 Aline: LVIRDEN > CIS: 75046,606 -- *Scott Gentry |UUCP:uunet!ingr!gentrys | * *Intergraph Corporation |America Online: AFL Scott |I speak for myself * *2051 Mercador Drive |GEnie: W.GENTRY | * *Reston, VA 22091 |CIS:72000,1536 (rarely) | *
edward@pro-harvest.cts.com (Edward Floden) (11/15/89)
In-Reply-To: message from lvirden@pro-tcc.cts.com > Does anyone know of a way for a person who doesnt own HyperStudio to > be able to 'use' the stacks? I mean, I have programs which play Music Studio .Roger Wagner said that he had been working on a run-time version of HyperStudio, but that its development was place on hold while the latest version of HS was being worked upon. I spoke with him recently and asked about the run-time version, and he indicated that the project was still "under consideration". He has had many requests for the application, and I think that we will see it sometime next spring. :Edward UUCP: crash!pro-harvest!edward ProLine: edward@pro-harvest ARPA: crash!pro-harvest!edward@nosc.mil CIS: 73220.1624@compuserve.com INET: edward@pro-harvest.cts.com America Online: EdwardF4 BITNET: edward%pro-harvest.cts.com@nosc.mil GEnie: E.FLODEN
jgsmith@watson.bcm.tmc.edu (James G. Smith) (11/18/89)
(In response to Jeremy Mereness' remark..."drawback that HyperStudio cannot download HyperCard stacks " (sorry, not a direct quote) HyperStudio has only a surface resemblance to HyperCard. The functionality that makes HyperCard great is that folks with access to computers but without special programming education can make some *amazing* applications. HyperCard's scripting language HyperTalk is what makes all the difference. * (C'mon Apple...get out that HyperCard IIgs) (I've got real hypertext for HyperCard, now I just need it for the computer I can afford to own, the IIgs.)
lvirden@pro-tcc.cts.com (Larry Virden) (11/18/89)
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Thanks! I was curious. Will you let us know when this is completed?
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CIS: 75046,606mitch@rbdc.UUCP (Mitch Berry) (02/04/90)
About Hyperstudio...i thought apple was gonna buy out the product and call it hypercard iigs or something...like they did with awgs....how musch is the list price for hyperstudio anyways...?
wombat@claris.com (Scott Lindsey) (02/06/90)
In article <999@rbdc.UUCP> mitch@rbdc.UUCP (Mitch Berry) writes: > About Hyperstudio...i thought apple was gonna buy out the product and call > it hypercard iigs or something...like they did with awgs....how musch is > the list price for hyperstudio anyways...? FLAME Let's get something straight: Apple did **NOT** buy AppleWorks GS. Claris did. (More correctly, Claris bought StyleWare, thereby accquiring rights to GSWorks cum AppleWorks GS (AWGS).) Claris and Apple are not one and the same; Apple owns Claris, but it is a separate legal entity. For example: we don't know any more about a ROM 4 GS than what we've heard here on comp.sys.apple. EMALF Scott Lindsey | I dig iguana in their outer space duds Claris Corp. | saying, "Aren't you glad we only eat bugs?" ames!claris!wombat| DISCLAIMER: These are not the opinions of Claris, Apple, wombat@claris.com | StyleWare, the author, or anyone else living or Dead.
cs122aw@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott Alfter) (02/06/90)
In article <WOMBAT.90Feb5134454@claris.com> wombat@claris.com (Scott Lindsey) writes: >GSWorks cum AppleWorks GS (AWGS).) Claris and Apple are not one and the same; >Apple owns Claris, but it is a separate legal entity. For example: we don't I thought Claris was completely spun off of Apple into its own company. Shortly after that happened, Claris ran ads saying that such was true. I could be wrong, though--after all, you work for Claris! Scott Alfter------------------------------------------------------------------- Internet: cs122aw@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu _/_ Apple IIe: the power to be your best! alfter@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu/ v \ saa33413@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu ( ( A keyboard--how quaint! free0066@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu \_^_/ --M. Scott, STIV