buchho@studsys.mu.edu (buchho) (02/02/90)
In article <90Jan31.225106est.58671@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca> MACAUSLANDR@watt.ccs.tuns.ca (Robert MacAusland) writes: >I've been looking into setting up a BBS and have looked at several different >programs. Unfortunately, none of them measures up to say a Citadel system for >the IBM/Amiga/ST... I've seen mention in several mention in people's sigs of a >system called ProLine. How does it compare to BBS programs for other systems? >I've currently looked at SBBS and AppleNet, and would appreciate more >suggestions.... I'll second that request. I'm a veteran ACOS (yes, ACOS... Abandoned GBBS long ago) programmer, and lately I've just become fed up with the kind of environ- ment that I have to work in. I'd like something as programmable, if not more so. I have only heard the names ProLine, SBBS, and AppleNet, but I've never seen any specs on them, nor have I seen their programmability or looks before. Come to think of it, I've not seen a BBS system specifically for the IIgs either. Wouldn't it be much better to write it in 16 bit code for speed and include support for such stuff as emulations? (alright, so I'm an emulation nut... The ACOS code I was working on supported seven of 'em, with optional pulldown menus) I could think of many, many ideas for such a BBS system, yet I don't quite have the experience (or the tools) (or the time) to sit down and figure out the commands, syntaxes, and actually how to write a compiler itself. Maybe in a few years... -- [][][][][][][][][][][][][][]-----------------------------------------------+ [] Jacob S. Buchholz [] With great intellect, comes an even greater | [] buchho@studsys.mu.edu [] possibility of a showing of a lack thereof. | [][][][][][][][][][][][][][]-----------------------------------------------+
schwam@uncw.UUCP (schwam david samuel) (02/04/90)
In article <90Jan31.225106est.58671@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca> MACAUSLANDR@watt.ccs.tuns.ca (Robert MacAusland) writes: >I've been looking into setting up a BBS and have looked at several different >programs. Unfortunately, none of them measures up to say a Citadel system for >the IBM/Amiga/ST... I've seen mention in several mention in people's sigs of a >system called ProLine. How does it compare to BBS programs for other systems? >I've currently looked at SBBS and AppleNet, and would appreciate more >suggestions.... I've never heard of SBBS, but in the past I've had the pleasure of working with: AppleNet, CMS, GBBS, GBBS "pro" and TeleCat. I worked with AppleNet for about 2 years. It was a good system to start out with, but as I expanded I found it too limited for my needs. This past summer I began working with GBBS "pro" and have been very pleased with it. It's a bbs that is ready to go almost right out of the box and is easy to work with/modify. There is also a new version of GBBS coming out (one of these days) called Llucy which suposedly will offer network capabilities. I'm friendly with one of the Proline sysops and he seems happy with with the Proline software. It looks like it is more difficult to set up, but I have not worked with it directly. It's a good program if you plan to run a *BIG* system, otherwise I'd recommend GBBS. -----------realistically----------.----------conventionally---------- | | | | | Box 23906 UNCW-Station | | uncw.uucp!schwam@uncecs.edu | Wilmington, NC 28407 | | | (919)392-0295 | | ! | ---------------------------------- ----------------------------------
mitch@rbdc.UUCP (Mitch Berry) (02/04/90)
Hmm...i recently downloaded a program called "MACOS" written by some "pirate" types, they totaly re-wrote acos and added lots of stuff 64 security flags instead of 40, drive specifiers a-z instead of a-m or whatever...but it uses iigs memory for the editor and various other things..if anybody wants it (its public domain) let me know...its a WHOLE lot better than acos.... it also has a BUNCH of new commands...and uses the 64k extended emmeory of a .//e,c,iigs.... -- [Mitch Berry (Thrashing Rage)|UUCP:mitch@rbdc.UUCP|PROLINE:thrash@pro-Dchamber] "I want to play my music, As loud as I please. I want to grow my hair down to my knees. I wont get a job and be punching your clock, Won't be another number in your lay off slot." DRI -- 'You Say I'm Scum' $FLAMES > /dev/null^m
paulj@pro-generic.cts.com (Paul Johnson) (02/04/90)
In-Reply-To: message from buchho@studsys.mu.edu
There is ModemWorks written by Morgan Davis. It does so many wonderful
things all within an AppleSoft environment (you can stick a little assembly in
there if you wish I suppose). SBBS, and ProLine were written using this
powerful "utility"...
Get it..
:: Paul Johnson ::
UUCP: crash!pro-generic!paulj Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
ARPA: crash!pro-generic!paulj@nosc.mil A
INET: paulj@pro-generic.cts.cogarym@pro-fishunt.cts.com (System Administrator) (02/05/90)
In-Reply-To: message from buchho@studsys.mu.edu The Proline software speaks very well for itself. I've listed a few numbers you can call and see Proline in action. I will list a few of the features you may like. 1. Programable, easily modified, based on Modemworks, very good support, networking e-mail and conferences. 2. Updates sent through Proline network several times a year. Some updates are major in scope. 3. Unix like c-shell interface or menu interface for beginners. Many commands are Unix commands. Pro-Colony 214/625-7056 pro-exchange 305/431-3203 pro-tcc 614/471/1265 pro-party 512/829-1027 pro-fishunt 614/775-2056 pro-sol 619/670-5379 Pro-sol is Morgan Davis's board <author of proline and modemworks> and the support board for the proline software, although many of the veteran proline sysops are extremly helpful too. There are many other Proline boards, these are a few that I am familar with. If you would like a more extensive list e-mail me and I'll send ya a copy. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ProFisHunt BBS | ProLine: garym@pro-fishunt Gary McClain | INTERNET: crash!garym@pro-fishunt.cts.com Chillicothe, OH 45601 | UUCP: crash!pro-fishunt!garym@nosc.mil 614/775-2056 (3/12/24 baud) | BITNET: garym%pro-fishunt.cts.com@nosc.mil
TE880714%STUDTEW.UFSIA.AC.BE@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Stef Bracke) (02/06/90)
Hello,
I am one of the few Belgian APPLE (GS) AND MODEM users.
So, no Apple network whatsoever overhere. At the moment, I am
an Apple Area Operator of the local FIDONET-based BBS,
called OPUS MAGNUM, stationed in Antwerp. To make things easy
I made myself a point, called The Apple Connection, allthough
the mailing-program runs on a , yeg|, PC. (BTW; my address
is 2:295/20.2008 and I am very interested in American
(preferably Apple-minded) nodes/points to send netmail to.
So, here's the question: Is there any Appleprogram, that
is conform to the Fidonet and allows me -MAILING-,
packing of files (PKARC-compatibility), ANSI-graphics (using a font?...)
, Z-Modem, etc...
If not, no hard feelings. It's even better that way: I
make my own BBS. But it has to be expandable, adaptable
and usable in a (future) Belgian Apple Net. (My dream, sigh...)
So allowing: ON-LINE to run programs, (un)packing of mailpackets
and files, supporting Points, extensive security, totally and
utterly Apple II-minded, userfriendly ....
Something completly different from Fidonet, typically Apple.
There's one mayor problem. I am a student and a European citizen.
So, I don't have much money and I costs a lot to phone to the USA
to examine or download BBS-software.
I would appreciate if someone could send me BY NORMAL MAIL
such a Apple BBS program. If it's not possible, you can always
send in through E-Mail, only from March. (We're moving to another
building).
I know it's illegal to copy programs, but if I find a suitable
BBS-program (not the ones I tried from Apple2-L), I would gladly
mail a box of pralines (you call them chocolates) to the sender.
(Top quality, hand-made, labeled BONDOUCE, express-delivery)
Why chocolates? The compagny is just a block away and I think
everybody likes them.
My purpose, is to stimulate the use of Apple II's and modems in
general. People always answer with "There's nothing to phone to"
when you ask them why they won't use a modem.
So, without sponsoring and high phonetaxes, I would like to set
this thing up in the best way possible. (Hope you understand...)
Greetings,
Stef
_______________________________________________________________________
Stefan Bracke | The only things we're famous for
Venneborglaan 77 | are beer, chocolates, wafels,
2100 Deurne, BELGIUM | carpets, French (#?&%|) fries,
00-32-3-325/75/89 (only GMT-hours) | sprouts, etc...
TE880714 at STUDTEW.UFSIA.AC.BE | Need anything else ?
University of Saint Ignatius,Antwerp |sschneider@pro-exchange.cts.com (The RainForest BBS) (02/07/90)
In-Reply-To: message from mitch@rbdc.UUCP (Mitch Berry) You might be interested in knowing that the code falls under the L&L copyrights for ACOS (since most of the internal code =IS= ACOS) and that the author of MACOS has signed legal seize-and-desist documents with L&L and as a side-note, MACOS is, to say the least, slightly buggy. ** IT IS =NOT= PUBLIC DOMAIN ** Have a nice day... /steve +===========================================================================+ | UUCP: crash!pro-exchange!sschneider COMPU$ERVE : 75166,2544 | | ARPA: crash!pro-exchange!sschneider@nosc.mil GENIE : sschneider | | INET: sschneider@pro-exchange.cts.com APLINK.PE : <shrug> | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The RainForest @ 305-434-4927 / PO Box 841422, Pembroke Pines, Fl, 33084 | +===========================================================================+
danield@pro-grouch.cts.com (Daniel Davidson) (02/07/90)
In-Reply-To: message from mitch@rbdc.UUCP >Hmm...i recently downloaded a program called "MACOS" written by some "pirate" >types, they totaly re-wrote acos and added lots of stuff 64 security flags >instead of 40, drive specifiers a-z instead of a-m or whatever...but it >uses iigs memory for the editor and various other things..if anybody wants it >(its public domain) let me know...its a WHOLE lot better than acos.... >it also has a BUNCH of new commands...and uses the 64k extended emmeory of a >.//e,c,iigs.... It was not a complete re-write. The fellow who "wrote" it, took ACOS, and modified it. He did add arrays, support for long integers, and fix all of the known bugs, And add prodos path name support, but he did not write it from scratch. As it stands it is a dirivitive work of ACOS, and as such is in violation of U.S. Copyright. L&L Productions threatened to Sue the person who redid ACOS into MACOS is he continued to distribute it. If you want more info you can get it on the L&L Suport BBS, but I degres. The point of all this is that MACOS is *NOT* public domain. Daniel _______________________________________________________________________________ BITNET : danield%pro-grouch.cts.com@nosc.mil | ProLine: danield@pro-grouch UUCP: crash!pnet01!pro-grouch!danield | INET:danield@pro-grouch.cts.com ARPA: crash!pnet01!pro-grouch!danield@nosc.mil| All opinions here in are MINE!!