dave@oldcolo.UUCP (Dave Hughes) (02/05/90)
Could someone post some basic information comparing the value of Proline with Fredmail for Apple IIe BBS systems capable of 'talking to' Unix/uucp/netnews systems. I am in contact with those who know and use Fredmail, but learned today that a "Morgan Davis" and Proline as an Apple BBS could exchange traffic with a unix system. If this information is not of general interest please e-mail me 'dave@oldcolo.uucp'.
rlw@ttardis.UUCP (Ron Wilson) (02/07/90)
In article <[1862]apple@oldcolo.UUCP>, dave@oldcolo.UUCP (Dave Hughes) writes: > >Could someone post some basic information comparing the value >of Proline with Fredmail for Apple IIe BBS systems capable >of 'talking to' Unix/uucp/netnews systems. > >I am in contact with those who know and use Fredmail, but >learned today that a "Morgan Davis" and Proline as an Apple >BBS could exchange traffic with a unix system. While I don't really know much about Proline, I HAVE written the software necessary for a UNIX system to exchange mail and news with a Proline system. There isn't that much to my software - most of it involves running a handshaking protocol around a basic Xmodem file transfer (Proline doesn't know uucp) and converting between using LF and CR for line termination in text files. The remainder of my UNIX <-> Proline software involved modifying a clone of /bin/mail (which I got from a comp.sources archive) to be able to invoke my Proline conterpart to uux. Also, I modified the mailer to be able to pipe a message into rnews (to handle processing of bulletin board messages from a Proline system). - Ron Wilson rlw@ttardis sharkey!cfctech!ttardis!rlw uunet!edsews.eds.com!rel!ttardis!rlw
mrapple@quack.UUCP (Nick Sayer) (02/08/90)
dave@oldcolo.UUCP (Dave Hughes) writes: >Could someone post some basic information comparing the value >of Proline with Fredmail for Apple IIe BBS systems capable >of 'talking to' Unix/uucp/netnews systems. I wrote CMS, which is the original program Fredmail came from. It is not impossible to get Fredmail to talk to unix, but it is for the current version. When you first call a CMS (or Fredmail), it will wait for a character. One character in particular will tell CMS to go into the mail transfer mode. Unless you can make a unix system react and login on a single character (not likely), it won't go. Similarly, you'd have to teach a unix box to dial out, send this single character, then get into a file transfer mode. That's not too tough, but the unix system has to do the calling. In a new version of CMS, it may be possible to add "chat scripts" like UUCP, but there has been insufficient interest. Another problem is that the source for CMS.OBJ was on my hard drive when it crashed. I have backups, but Apple's "BACKUP ][" program won't restore what it backed up (GRRRRRRRR!!!!). Fredmail/CMS's mail transfer is based on xmodem files back and forth. If anyone wants the details, just ask and I'll mail it out. There is password security to keep people from sending garbage into a CMS's mail end and make a mess. If I am not mistaken, Morgan managed to make a mini uucp/uux implementation for ProLine, which of course makes it very easy for ProLine to talk to unix systems. ProLine people would know more about this than I would. -- Nick Sayer - The Goose Egg public unix - 209-952-5347 (Telebit) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ quack!mrapple@uop.edu ! Man's eternal question: ...pacbell!uop!quack!mrapple ! Which is a cheaper news feed? N6QQQ @ WB6V (packet radio) ! Trailblazer or tapes via Fed Ex?