Justin_Randall_Padawer@cup.portal.com (02/24/90)
The latest MacWeek (20-Feb-1990) reports that Apple is considering doing away with the entire Apple // line. Furthermore, the Apple //c+ has officially bit the dust. Quoting Daniel Farber: "Apple has been pursuing a carefully planned three-prong strategy to shore up its Mac product line with new compact and modular models while also phasing out its Apple // business, according to sources close to the company." The word, of course, circulating at Cupertino pizza places :-) is that Michael Spindler wants to eliminate the // series because its revenues are wayyyyy down. To continue with Daniel Farber: "Apple is also expected to introduce in January of 1991 a low-cost color machine aimed at the collapsing Apple // market..." The article goes on to describe the machine as being Mac-compatible and that "Apple has plans to introduce a board for the low-cost color Mac that emulates an Apple //e..." Interesting, huh? --Randy Padawer Internet: Justin_Randall_Padawer@cup.portal.com Cupertino/Portal: Justin Randall Padawer
gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn) (02/25/90)
In article <27265@cup.portal.com> Justin_Randall_Padawer@cup.portal.com writes: >The latest MacWeek (20-Feb-1990) reports ... >Interesting, huh? NO.
wilkins@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Mark Wilkins) (02/25/90)
Were this their plan, why would they spend all the money they have on developing Apple IIgs' system 5.0 and APW? This couldn't be a new decision, were it true. Of course, I would like nothing more than a cheap color Mac with Apple II emulation, but it sounds a lot like an Apple IIgs to me. :-) -- Mark Wilkins wilkins@jarthur.claremont.edu
nicholaA@batman.moravian.EDU (Andy Nicholas) (02/25/90)
In article <27265@cup.portal.com>, Justin_Randall_Padawer@cup.portal.com writes: > "Apple has plans to introduce a board for > the low-cost color Mac that emulates an Apple //e..." > Interesting, huh? > --Randy Padawer Not really... I kind of wish that they would at least be smart enough to build a GS-card for the mac so that I haven't written GS/ShrinkIt in vain... andy -- Yeah!
toddpw@tybalt.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) (02/27/90)
Justin_Randall_Padawer@cup.portal.com writes: >The latest MacWeek (20-Feb-1990) reports that Apple is considering >doing away with the entire Apple // line. Furthermore, the Apple //c+ I think MacLEAK is just trying to get a rise out of Apple. They have said that they have no intentions of dropping the ][, but haven't backed it up yet. My sources close to Apple say that when they finally announce the stuff they've developed over the last couple years there will be no question as to whether or not they still support the ][. It will take more than that, however, and we need to convince them of it. >has officially bit the dust. Quoting Daniel Farber: "Apple has been >pursuing a carefully planned three-prong strategy to shore up its Mac >product line with new compact and modular models while also phasing out >its Apple // business, according to sources close to the company." The This will never work. The Apple ][ is inherently cheaper than the mac and therefore can go places the Mac will not. A //c+ portable would do what most people really want in a portable and the price would be reasonable even at Apple standard inflation. >word, of course, circulating at Cupertino pizza places :-) is that >Michael Spindler wants to eliminate the // series because its revenues >are wayyyyy down. To continue with Daniel Farber: "Apple is also expected Well, if they hadn't let it rot while they were Macurbating with the '030 then it wouldn't be selling so badly. If Apple just says, WE WILL SUPPORT AND DEVELOP THE APPLE ][, and then follows up on it, you will see an amazing jump in sales from people who have held out and not wanted to go amiga or PC but will not buy a //gs or //c with an uncertain future. >to introduce in January of 1991 a low-cost color machine aimed at the >collapsing Apple // market..." The article goes on to describe the machine >as being Mac-compatible and that "Apple has plans to introduce a board for >the low-cost color Mac that emulates an Apple //e..." This will not work, if the best they can do is emulate the //e then only schools will buy it, and if the low cost mac is as reported in MacLeak (68000, 4 bit color, $2000) then FORGET IT. Not only will the ][ user base feel betrayed as hell, they will be buying a more expensive machine and then have to pay extra for the emulator! When you consider the actual engineering involved in this, it becomes pretty obvious how ludicrous it is. All MacLeak is doing is making more and more people drop the ][ because they actually believe the a printed rumor. MacLeak probably wants the rumors to come true. They can go suck if they think I'm going to buy a Mac that sucks eggs and still costs over twice an Amiga which can already emulate it faster and for free (pirate ware mac emulators exist on the Amiga, they fixed quickdraw to use the blitter so the desktop simply screams). I'm not about to go Amiga, but there are a lot of people who have already. WAKE UP APPLE!!! Todd Whitesel toddpw @ tybalt.caltech.edu
cdm@pro-freedom.cts.com (Carl Macdonald) (02/27/90)
In-Reply-To: message from nicholaA@batman.moravian.EDU
Andy,
Even if Apple does drop the //'s there will still be a demand for software.
After all, there are a lot of machines already out there, and Laser is still
making // compatibles.
Carl MacDonald
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InterNet: cdm@pro-freedom.cts.comsb@pro-generic.cts.com (Stephen Brown) (03/01/90)
In-Reply-To: message from cdm@pro-freedom.cts.com Perhaps the IIc+'s sales wouldn't be hurtin' so bad if they'd bother to market it in Canada. But no, they can't make a big enough profit (as if they don't make enough anyway???) so they don't carry it at all. Well done. I also wouldn't mind knowing why the IIc+ is only 4 Mhz when technology exists to make an 8-bit Apple II at least 10 Mhz... Don't worry, such sensible questions are always rhetorical. Ok, the asbestos suit is on... UUCP: crash!pro-generic!sb ARPA: crash!pro-generic!sb@nosc.mil INET: sb@pro-generic.cts.com
mmunz@pro-beagle.cts.com (Mark Munz) (03/01/90)
In-Reply-To: message from Justin_Randall_Padawer@cup.portal.com >Quoting Daniel Farber: "Apple has been pursuing a carefully >planned three-prong strategy to shore up its Mac product line >with new compact and modular models while also phasing out its >Apple // business, according to sources close to the company." >The word, of course, circulating at Cupertino pizza places :-) >is that Michael Spindler wants to eliminate the // series >because its revenues are wayyyyy down.... > "Apple is also expected to introduce in January of 1991 a >low-cost color machine aimed at the collapsing Apple // market..." Is it just me, or does this sound like one of those: "Boy points a gun at his leg and shoots himself and then gets an artificial leg to replace the lost leg because it disappeared.."