paulj@pro-generic.cts.com (Paul Johnson) (02/24/90)
Has anyone out there (there = Anywhere on Earth!) made a patch for
ProTERM so that it can have 4k-Xmodem? If so, please contact me through
private mail.
Also! Has anyone out there successfully made a Unix/8-bit Apple link
"networked-mail-wise"? If so, once again, could you leave me mail privately.
..Thanks in advance..
:: Paul Johnson ::
UUCP: crash!pro-generic!paulj Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
ARPA: crash!pro-generic!paulj@nosc.mil A
INET: paulj@pro-generic.cts.colmb7421@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Les Barstow: Phoenix) (02/26/90)
In article <300.infoapple.net@pro-generic> paulj@pro-generic.cts.com (Paul Johnson) writes: > > Has anyone out there (there = Anywhere on Earth!) made a patch for >ProTERM so that it can have 4k-Xmodem? If so, please contact me through >private mail. Umm, last I checked, there was no such thing as 4K-XMODEM.... 1K XMODEM, yes, but 4K? That's not in the specs. If you're talking about ZMODEM, that's different, but I don't know of any program for an Apple ][ which does ZMODEM yet... -- Les Barstow |RIT - A citadel of gleaming brick towering over a snowy swamp SunSinger |Money - That which pays the bills. A dream never remembered. Phoenix rising...+------------------------------------------------------------- LMB7421@ritvax.bitnet | lmb7421@ultb.isc.rit.edu |...rochester!rit!ultb!lmb7421
cs122aw@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott Alfter) (02/27/90)
In article <2311@ultb.isc.rit.edu> lmb7421@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Les Barstow: Phoenix) writes: >about ZMODEM, that's different, but I don't know of any program for an >Apple ][ which does ZMODEM yet... ProTerm does ZMODEM. (It doesn't support all of ZMODEM's features though--for example, it doesn't do error recovery.) Scott Alfter------------------------------------------------------------------- Internet: cs122aw@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu _/_ Apple II: the power to be your best! alfter@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu/ v \ saa33413@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu ( ( A keyboard--how quaint! Bitnet: free0066@uiucvmd.bitnet \_^_/ --M. Scott, STIV
barcan@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Davor Barcan) (02/27/90)
In article <2311@ultb.isc.rit.edu> lmb7421@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Les Barstow: Phoenix) writes: >In article <300.infoapple.net@pro-generic> paulj@pro-generic.cts.com >(Paul Johnson) writes: >> >> Has anyone out there (there = Anywhere on Earth!) made a patch for >>ProTERM so that it can have 4k-Xmodem? If so, please contact me through >>private mail. > I personally haven't heard of such a patch existing yet. It MIGHT be an easy patch if you knew the internals of ProTERM. It possibly might take a change in only a few bytes to make it work. >Umm, last I checked, there was no such thing as 4K-XMODEM.... >1K XMODEM, yes, but 4K? That's not in the specs. If you're talking >about ZMODEM, that's different, but I don't know of any program for an >Apple ][ which does ZMODEM yet... Well, last time I checked, there DID exist a 4K Xmodem. If I'm not mistaken, Morgan Davis did a document outlining the protocol. That was a few years ago too. If you contact him (mdavis@pro-sol.cts.com), he'd probably send you a copy. Davor Barcan Internet: barcan@cpsc.UCalgary.CA
greyelf@wpi.wpi.edu (Michael J Pender) (02/27/90)
In article <2311@ultb.isc.rit.edu> lmb7421@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Les Barstow: Phoenix) writes: >Umm, last I checked, there was no such thing as 4K-XMODEM.... >1K XMODEM, yes, but 4K? That's not in the specs. If you're talking >about ZMODEM, that's different, but I don't know of any program for an >Apple ][ which does ZMODEM yet... You mean besides Proterm 2.1, right? Because Zmodem works just ducky under proterm 2.1 for me. --- Michael J Pender Jr Box 1942 c/o W.P.I. W.O.S. is not dead. greyelf@wpi.bitnet 100 Institute Rd. ...its time to get started, greyelf@wpi.wpi.edu Worcester, Ma 01609 there is much to be done. If my next computer isn't a IIgs, it won't be an apple... Me.
aj0@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Eric Mulholland) (02/27/90)
>lmb7421@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Les Barstow: Phoenix) writes: >>Umm, last I checked, there was no such thing as 4K-XMODEM.... >>1K XMODEM, yes, but 4K? That's not in the specs. If you're talking >>about ZMODEM, that's different, but I don't know of any program for an >>Apple ][ which does ZMODEM yet... greyelf@wpi.wpi.edu (Michael J Pender) writes: >You mean besides Proterm 2.1, right? Because Zmodem works >just ducky under proterm 2.1 for me. 4K xmodem does exist, Don Elton has it in his Talk is Cheap program. At least hat's what I keep hearing. I have some limited specs on the protocol, I think it give me all the info but I'm not positive. I could always use a more complete description so I can implement it. I'll say the zmodem in Proterm is just ducky, a real quack! I have not been able to get it to work with sz/rz on unix nor with a local ms-dos bbs. This is with Proterm 2.1, selecting zmodem and batch. I believe someone else on the net (don't remember who) said that Proterm's zmodem only implements a small subset of the protocol. When I monitered the serial flow once, proterm wasn't using the ascii format for the headers. From the zmodem specs I have, zmodem is supposed to use them until both ends know the other supports the binary format. On the topic of communications, what is the perfered method for cdas wantting to use the serial port and keyboard? I'd like to release a cda version of my communication program, but don't know how to communicate with the serial port or keyboard. The current version is in Prodos 8 because I'm not rich enough to afford all the gs reference books. Now only if those books could come out in paperback. -- ____ Y_,_|[]| Eric Mulholland {|_|_|__| aj0@sage.cc.purdue.edu //oo--OO ...!pur-ee!sage.cc!aj0
rmichel@pro-grouch.cts.com (Russel Michel) (02/28/90)
In-Reply-To: message from lmb7421@ultb.isc.rit.edu United Software Industries' MouseTalk has 4k-XModem capability; it does exist in the Apple II world, but nothing else (that I know of) supports it. Worked great in direct modem transfers between two Apple II systems, but it's not really very useful for other uses. UUCP: crash!pro-grouch!rmichel ARPA: crash!pro-grouch!rmichel@nosc.mil INET: rmichel@pro-grouch.cts.com
lmb7421@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Les Barstow: Phoenix) (03/01/90)
I stand corrected on the whereabouts of ZMODEM on Apples... Suppose I'm just not up to spending that kind of money to get the program (ProTerm). Les Barstow -- Les Barstow |RIT - A citadel of gleaming brick towering over a snowy swamp SunSinger |Money - That which pays the bills. A dream never remembered. Phoenix rising...+------------------------------------------------------------- LMB7421@ritvax.bitnet | lmb7421@ultb.isc.rit.edu |...rochester!rit!ultb!lmb7421
BOOZ@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (Bill Booz) (03/01/90)
According to the list on the screen of my ProTERM, it supports Z-Modem. In fact, when I called Checkmate Technologies to ask about some other desired features in the program, the person I spoke to said that the programmer was quite pleased with himself for being able to incorporate Zmodem in the package as everyone said it couldn't be done! ___________________________________________________________________________ | | | William H. Booz Fairfax County Public Schools | | Special Projects Teacher Fairfax, Virginia | | BOOZ@VTVM1 | |___________________________________________________________________________|
mmunz@pro-beagle.cts.com (Mark Munz) (03/01/90)
In-Reply-To: message from lmb7421@ultb.isc.rit.edu >Umm, last I checked, there was no such thing as 4K-XMODEM.... >1K XMODEM, yes, but 4K? That's not in the specs. I believe both Beagle Bros Comm packages support 4K Xmodem -- funny how could that be if it doesn't exist? Are those programmers playing with our machines again? I don't have the specs on it, but I believe the only difference is the packet size. Actually, it is also rumored that the Proline systems will one day support 4K Xmodem as well. Mark Munz
dlyons@Apple.COM (David A. Lyons) (03/02/90)
In article <3713@sage.cc.purdue.edu> aj0@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Eric Mulholland) writes: >[...] >On the topic of communications, what is the perfered method for cdas >wanting to use the serial port and keyboard? I'd like to release a cda >version of my communication program, but don't know how to communicate >with the serial port or keyboard. The current version is in Prodos 8 >because I'm not rich enough to afford all the gs reference books. Now >only if those books could come out in paperback. Reading the keyboard is pretty easy--either do an EMStatus to see if the Event Manager is active (use GetNextEvent if it is, and read the keyboard at $E1C000 directly if not), or use GetIRQEnable and IntSource to turn off keyboard interrupts while you're in your CDA (and then always read the keyboard hardware directly). There *is* a GS Technical Note available that addresses that ("CDA Tips and Techniques", one of the fairly recent ones). Using the serial ports under GS/OS, and especially from a CDA, presents some complicated questions. How are you doing it now, under P8? If you're using the firmware, FWEntry will help a lot. A future Technical Note will go into great detail on serial-port-related issues under GS/OS. Your basic choices are to use GS/OS drivers to do all or most of the serial operations; to use the firmware; or to go directly to the hardware. ('course, there are various advantages and problems with all of these.) Having the reference books is really helpful, too. -- David A. Lyons, Apple Computer, Inc. | DAL Systems Apple II Developer Technical Support | P.O. Box 875 America Online: Dave Lyons | Cupertino, CA 95015-0875 GEnie: D.LYONS2 or DAVE.LYONS CompuServe: 72177,3233 Internet/BITNET: dlyons@apple.com UUCP: ...!ames!apple!dlyons My opinions are my own, not Apple's.