SASQUATCH@ALBION.BITNET ("Kevin O. Lepard") (12/06/88)
Recently, while typing OA-S to save a document in appleworks, all four disk drives came on (background: //GS, 2 3.5" disk drives, 2 5.25" disk drives, Sider D4a that was off at the time) and didn't go off. Immediately after this incident, my Sider stopped working (we're talking totally, totally dead). I've heard that there is a bug in the ROMs of the Apple 3.5" disks that can cause the second 5.25" disk drive to come on and not go off, but is it possible that it can do actual hardware damage? I haven't had the ROMs in my Apple 3.5" disks (not unidisks 3.5, by the way) replaced because I so rarely have the problem with s6,d2 coming on like that. Does anyone have any advice, insights, or ideas on what happened and if it is related to the death of my Sider? If it's related, I'd really like to know so I don't reinstall and kill another Sider. Many, many thanks to anyone who can help me. Kevin Lepard Bitnet: Sasquatch@albion.bitnet
jla@hogbbs.Fidonet.Org (Slartibartfast) (12/07/88)
-> Does anyone have any advice, insights, or ideas on what -> happened and if it -> is related to the death of my Sider? If it's related, I'd -> really like to know -> so I don't reinstall and kill another Sider. The only thing that I could think of is to re-format the Sider. Or do you suspect a hardware problem with the Sider now.... -- Fidonet : 1:263/42 Jim Anderson | UUCP : ..psuvax1!psuhcx!hogbbs!jla | This Space Internet: jla@hogbbs.fidonet.org | For Rent or jla%hogbbs.fidonet.org@hcx.psu.edu |
nazgul@pro-angmar.UUCP (System Administrator) (03/10/90)
[Please reply to the address below (steffan@pro-angmar.cts.com), I'm just forwarding this because it bounced. -sysop] ------ Forwarded Message #1 ------ >From mdss Thu Mar 8 10:58:22 1990 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 90 10:58:22 EST From: mdss (Mail Delivery SubSystem) To: nazgul Subject: Returned Mail This message failed because "crash" not found in /a/mdss. Sincerely, mdss@pro-angmar ----- Returned Message ----- >From steffan Thu Mar 8 10:37:54 1990 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 90 10:37:53 EST From: steffan (Steven Mesnick) Message-Id: <0.apple/net@pro-angmar> To: pro-angmar!info-apple Subject: Disk drive problem Can anyone out there help me? I have a 128K ("platinum") //e with the following peripherals: Slot Equipment ---- --------- 1 PKaso card to NEC PC8023A-C parallel printer 2 Hayes MicroModem II 3 empty 4 TimeMaster HO clock card 5 RamFactor 1 Meg card 6 Micro-Sci interface to 2 MicroSci A2 disk drives (5.25") 7 Vulcan 20 Meg internal hard disk Of course, I also have a Kensington System Saver to cool it all down. Now here's the problem. The computer stopped recognizing the floppy drives. It knows there's something in slot 6, but trying to catalog, load, etc. just causes the drives to spin. I get I/O errors and "Not a ProDos or DOS 3.3 disk" when I use Copy II Plus 8.3 from the hard disk. Well, I figured it was the controller, so I got a new one from Applied Engineering. Same problem. Pulling all the other cards, and moving the floppy controller around didn't help. AE told me I probably had fried some chips on the I/O bus, and should replace the AS109 and LS245. I found a 74F109N and HD74L5245WP on the motherboard, but haven't been able to find a source for them anywhere. In any case, others have told me that the problem is probably not chips, but the cables on the disk drives, and that they ought to be easy to replace. That isn't the case either, it seems. Apple doesn't want to hear from a //e owner. Apple dealers' response is invariably "Well, you really ought to trade up to a nice Macintosh". I'd appreciate any advice, opinions, or leads on getting my drives working again. Steve Mesnick pro-angmar!steffan@alphalpha.com 70166.1402@compuserve.com ------------