jackh@zehntel.UUCP (jack hagerty) (01/11/85)
All of you people who claim that in the book 2001 Bowman retrieves
his pod by remote control after his "helmetless" re-entry must have
a different version of the book than I.
According to my copy of 2001, the original version published concurrent
with the movie, Bowman never goes after Poole. After HAL bunted Poole
into oblivion with the pod, Bowman tracks him with the telescope. Seeing
that the air line is torn and that the body doesn't move (except for a
random flapping of an arm a la the dead Captian Ahab in "Moby Dick")
Bowman decides that the rescue of a dead body is not worth the danger
of an EVA. It is *Poole's* pod that Bowman returns by remote control.
HAL then tries to kill Bowman by opening both the inner and outer pod bay
doors at the same time and evacuating the ship. He has to struggle "uphill"
against this artificial hurricane until he reaches the emergency cubicle
where the spare space suit is.
After disconnecting HAL, Bowman takes one of the pods into the monolith.
So, *according to the book*, the pod bay should have had *two* pods,
both with doors attached, and no air in the ship. Of course, according
to the book, they should have been around Saturn as well!
Jack Hagerty, Zehntel Automation Systems
...!ihnp4!zehntel!jackhdisc@houxz.UUCP (S.BERRY) (01/11/85)
Of course, all this discussion about the differences in the handling of the pods (and other things in general) between the BOOK 2001, and the MOVIE 2001 is moot. Clarke wrote the BOOK 2010 as a sequel to the MOVIE 2001. SJBerry
okie@ihuxi.UUCP (B.K. Cobb) (01/11/85)
On the matter of the Discovery's pods... Did anyone else look closely during the sequence where Brasilov and Curnow first enter the pod bay? When one of them shines his light into the remaining pod, you can see through the pod's front window that the door to the pod is either open or missing -- there's a rectangular opening where the light is shining through. Hmmm... Looks like Bowman could have brought back his pod on remote after pulling his "cannon shot" to get back into Discovery. Anybody else out there see this? Or was it something in the popcorn? B.K.Cobb ihnp4!ihuxi!okie "You'd better patronize me."
waltt@tekecs.UUCP (Walt Tucker) (01/14/85)
> > All of you people who claim that in the book 2001 Bowman retrieves > his pod by remote control after his "helmetless" re-entry must have > a different version of the book than I. The pod reference is in the book *2010*, not 2001. Strange, the book 2010 was a sequel to the movie 2001, not Clarke's book 2001. Hence, what is explained in the book 2010 is what happened in the first movie, not the first book. -- Walt
jackh@zehntel.UUCP (jack hagerty) (01/15/85)
> > Of course, all this discussion about the differences in the handling > of the pods (and other things in general) between the BOOK 2001, and > the MOVIE 2001 is moot. Clarke wrote the BOOK 2010 as a sequel > to the MOVIE 2001. > > SJBerry This is true, but my question still remains: what do the people mean who say that, in the book, Bowman retrieved the pod by remote control? Some mail from Peter Bain prompted me to re-read that part last weekend. In that sequence, Bowman never goes after Poole. When last seen, the pod, still under HAL's control and with the lifeless form of Frank Poole still tethered to it, was accelerating away from the Discovery at full thrust. BTW, as Peter pointed out, this occured while they were still several months away from Saturn so there was plenty of time to re-pressurize the ship. There was also a mention of the smell from the rotting food which "the air purifiers could never quite get rid of." -- Jack Hagerty, Zehntel Automation Systems ...!ihnp4!zehntel!jackh