doug@HCX.PSU.EDU (Doug Hughes) (09/01/89)
If I were to purchase an Apple mouse with interface card for my //e
and at some later date wanted to buy a IIGS, would I be able to use
this mouse without the interface card for that purpose?
Doug Hughes
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Disclaimer: My opinions are not necessarily those of my employergwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn) (09/01/89)
In article <8908312039.AA01601@hcx.psu.edu> doug@HCX.PSU.EDU (Doug Hughes) writes: >If I were to purchase an Apple mouse with interface card for my //e >and at some later date wanted to buy a IIGS, would I be able to use >this mouse without the interface card for that purpose? Yes, but it would be pointless since the GS comes with a mouse that works slicker than the AppleMouse //e. I had both and my //e mouse stayed with the //e when I gave it away.
throoph@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Henry Throop) (09/01/89)
In article <10901@smoke.BRL.MIL> gwyn@brl.arpa (Doug Gwyn) writes: >In article <8908312039.AA01601@hcx.psu.edu> doug@HCX.PSU.EDU (Doug Hughes) writes: >>If I were to purchase an Apple mouse with interface card for my //e >>and at some later date wanted to buy a IIGS, would I be able to use >>this mouse without the interface card for that purpose? > >Yes, but it would be pointless since the GS comes with a mouse that works >slicker than the AppleMouse //e. I had both and my //e mouse stayed with >the //e when I gave it away. No, you can't put the old mouse on the gs without the controller card. The new one uses a different connector and is an ADB device internally. If you are getting a motherboard upgrade to a gs, you would have to buy an ADB mouse that plugs into the ADB port on the back of the gs; I don't believe that the old mouse (in a slot) would be recognized by the gs. Henry
nuwilken@ndsuvax.UUCP (Scott Wilken) (09/03/89)
In article <8908312039.AA01601@hcx.psu.edu> doug@HCX.PSU.EDU (Doug Hughes) writes: >If I were to purchase an Apple mouse with interface card for my //e >and at some later date wanted to buy a IIGS, would I be able to use >this mouse without the interface card for that purpose? > Doug Hughes Nope. The gs uses an ADB mouse (Apple Desktop Bus). It plugs directly into the side of the keyboard (or directly into the back of the gs if you dont use your keyboard :). The gs also COMES WITH a mouse, so if you bought one someday, you could just as well sell your mouse with your //e (assuming you are selling it for an upgrade). Scott +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ! Internet: nuwilken@Plains.NoDak.EDU AppleLink PE: Wilken ! ! UUCP: uunet!ndsuvax!nuwilken GEnie Mail: S.WILKEN1 ! ! Bitnet: NUWILKEN@NDSUVAX CompuServe: 75130,1571 ! +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn) (09/03/89)
In article <12324@orstcs.CS.ORST.EDU> throoph@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU.UUCP (Henry Throop) writes: >No, you can't put the old mouse on the gs without the controller card. Nobody said "without the controller card"! >I don't believe that the old mouse (in a slot) would be recognized by the gs. If you enable its slot (normally 4) via the control panel, it would be accessible. Whether or not the Finder, for example, would use it is a separate question. As I said, there is no point in it, since the GS mouse comes standard and works better. (It appears by default as a slot 4 mouse to software that is looking for an AppleMouse II, so existing mouse-operated Apple //e software should continue to function okay.)
jason@madnix.UUCP (Jason Blochowiak) (09/04/89)
In article <10916@smoke.BRL.MIL> gwyn@brl.arpa (Doug Gwyn) writes: [...] >If you enable its slot (normally 4) via the control panel, it would be >accessible. Whether or not the Finder, for example, would use it is a >separate question. Yes, the Finder, and all other software that goes through either 1) The Event manager (haven't seen a desktop program yet that doesn't), or 2) The mouse Firmware, will work with an AppleMouse ][. The programs that don't work with it are the ones that go directly to the hardware (usually for reasons of speed - this means games. Sorry, can't think of any offhand that do this specifically) and avoid the firmware. The Event manager goes through the firmware, which seems to be largely identical in terms of what is available to an application (I'm sure it's guts are quite different). Reason I know this is my ADB mouse died on me awhile back (now my ADB keyboard is dying on me :( ), and I still had my old mouse (from a ][+, no less). I plugged it in, and it worked without any problems. One thing about it, though: The "high-speed mouse" dealie didn't appear to affect the AppleMouse ][, so I was stuck in one speed. Speaking of meeses: Does anyone know if someone makes an ADB cable Y splitter? The one thing I _really_ hate about the ADB keyboard(s?) is that the mouse is attached to the right side of it. Normally, this isn't a problem, but when I program, I put the keyboard on my lap, roll my chair back a bit, and lean back into it. This means that the mouse cord is hanging in space, and every once and awhile, I'll move the wrong way, and it'll come flying off my desk. I worry about the strain on the connectors. -- --------8<------------------------------------------------------------8<-------- jason@madnix.UUCP "I am opposed 180 degrees" - George Bush, master mixer of metaphors. (Is the IInix mailing group still out there?)
davew@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Dave Welliver) (09/05/89)
>In article <10901@smoke.BRL.MIL> gwyn@brl.arpa (Doug Gwyn) writes: >>In article <8908312039.AA01601@hcx.psu.edu> doug@HCX.PSU.EDU (Doug Hughes) writes: >>>If I were to purchase an Apple mouse with interface card for my //e >>>and at some later date wanted to buy a IIGS, would I be able to use >>>this mouse without the interface card for that purpose? >> >>Yes, but it would be pointless since the GS comes with a mouse that works >>slicker than the AppleMouse //e. I had both and my //e mouse stayed with >>the //e when I gave it away. >No, you can't put the old mouse on the gs without the controller card. >The new one uses a different connector and is an ADB device internally. >If you are getting a motherboard upgrade to a gs, you would have to buy an >ADB mouse that plugs into the ADB port on the back of the gs; I don't believe >that the old mouse (in a slot) would be recognized by the gs. > >Henry In fact, the //e card plugged into a GS does work, and is compatible with most programs. I have found that one program does not work with the //e Mouse Card, but I believe that it doesn't work due to sloppy programming. GS/OS works fine with it, no problems at all.. I've been using my GS upgrade setup for 3(?) years now, and it's been working out pretty good.. Now all I need is a good RGB monitor... :-) Dave UUCP: {amdahl!bungia, uunet!rosevax, chinet, killer}!orbit!pnet51!davew ARPA: crash!orbit!pnet51!davew@nosc.mil INET: davew@pnet51.cts.com
matthew@sunpix.UUCP ( Sun Visualization Products) (09/06/89)
In article <10901@smoke.BRL.MIL> gwyn@brl.arpa (Doug Gwyn) writes: |In article <8908312039.AA01601@hcx.psu.edu> doug@HCX.PSU.EDU (Doug Hughes) writes: |>If I were to purchase an Apple mouse with interface card for my //e |>and at some later date wanted to buy a IIGS, would I be able to use |>this mouse without the interface card for that purpose? | |Yes, but it would be pointless since the GS comes with a mouse that works |slicker than the AppleMouse //e. I had both and my //e mouse stayed with |the //e when I gave it away. Incorrect. Unless there has been a change in the AppleMouse // card or mouse, The AppleMouse // will only work with its card, or attached to the MOUSE/JOYSTICK port on the Apple //c(+). The Apple //gs comes with its owne ADB mouse (the same mouse as on the Mac SE and Mac][. If you want to get a mouse for your Apple //e now, you'll have to get the AppleMouse //. When you get an Apple //gs, It will come with a mouse, so you won't need to keep you AppleMouse // if you get rid of your Apple //e. -- Matthew Lee Stier | Sun Microsystems --- RTP, NC 27709-3447 | "Wisconsin Escapee" uucp: sun!mstier or mcnc!rti!sunpix!matthew | phone: (919) 469-8300 fax: (919) 460-8355 |
krb@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU (Ken Block) (09/08/90)
Could someone tell me how to use the mouse in my own software in basic on a 2GS.