[net.movies] A View To A Kill

vijay@ucbvax.ARPA (Vijay Ramamoorthy) (05/25/85)

Being a James Bond fan, I naturally liked AVTAK.  To put it in perspective
though, I thought it was a much needed step up in quality from the
recent Bond (Roger Moore) movies.  However, I still think The Spy Who
Loved Me was Moore's best. 

I was very delighted to see Bond solving all those life-threatening
problems so elegantly (as usual), along with a lot of colorful action
scenes that weren't as goofy looking as in Octopussy.

Nitpicking, however, I can still find things to gripe about.  First,
I think the advertising slogan "Has Bond Finally Met His Match?" is
a bit misleading.  Bond never confronts Grace Jones (May Day)
in any major way (such as he did with Jaws).  Secondly, there still
is a bit of the lunacy left over from Octopussy (eg. the scene where
Bond commands "sit" to a wild man-eating tiger--and it does), 
when some music from the Beach Boys accompanies Bond's skiing on
a surfboard-like ski.

Also, there wasn't too much care taken in the scene where Grace Jones
pushes the car containing Bond and Sir Godfrey into the water;  I
could make out the wires connected to the front of the car that were
doing the actual pulling.  Lastly, there was the usual girls-say-
nothing-but "Oh James!" line for female actresses, except in this 
film, there seemed to be quite a bit of it.

Two other things about this movie (not really gripes): there weren't
the usual set of super-high-tech gadgets (I didn't notice this until
the end of the movie- it wasn't such a letdown), and there was something
peculiar about Bond's/Moore's expression - a lot of smiling or 
something (anyone else notice it?).

But, still, this movie was fun....even though we don't know what film
he'll be returning in (by the way, I heard that there may be a new 
James Bond actor -- see the most recent issue of Newsweek).

thrush@spock.UUCP (Patricia White '88 cc) (05/29/85)

AVTIK wasn't a bad movie, but the Beach Boys as background music and
Tanya Roberts attempting to act didn't help the movie any.  Also, Moore
is getting a bit old to play the part of Bond, a "35 year old" agent of
MI6.  Around here, some think that Mel Gibson would be good as the next
Bond.  He would be more of a Connery-style Bond, more the rough and
tumble type than the Bond Moore portrays.  This is just what some people
think around here, though.  What do the net readers think ??

Patricia White.

avolio@decuac.UUCP (Frederick M. Avolio) (05/30/85)

In article <252@spock.UUCP>, thrush@spock.UUCP (Patricia White '88 cc) writes:
> AVTIK wasn't a bad movie, but ...  Also, Moore is getting a bit old to
> play the part of Bond, a "35 year old" agent ...

Where are you quoting from?  I seem (key word there) to remember that Ian
Fleming had intended Bond to be more 40-50 years of age.  More like
Connery was in "Never Say Never Again."
-- 
Fred Avolio      {decvax,seismo}!decuac!avolio      301/731-4100 x4227

lear@topaz.ARPA (eliot lear) (05/31/85)

> In article <252@spock.UUCP>, thrush@spock.UUCP (Patricia White '88 cc) writes:
> > AVTIK wasn't a bad movie, but ...  Also, Moore is getting a bit old to
> > play the part of Bond, a "35 year old" agent ...
> 
> Where are you quoting from?  I seem (key word there) to remember that Ian
> Fleming had intended Bond to be more 40-50 years of age.  More like
> Connery was in "Never Say Never Again."
> -- 
> Fred Avolio      {decvax,seismo}!decuac!avolio      301/731-4100 x4227

I, personally, have grown accustomed to the Roger Moore James Bond. I must
admit that Roger Moore is growing out of his part.  After thinking it over
I have decided that what I would like to see is an English unkown to come in
and take his place - Someone will not blow Bond's image completely.

	Any comments as to who?  Anybody agree or disagree? Does anyone
	understand what I am saying?

					eliot
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ted@usceast.UUCP (Ted Nolan) (05/31/85)

In article <252@spock.UUCP> thrush@spock.UUCP (Patricia White '88 cc) writes:
>AVTIK wasn't a bad movie, but the Beach Boys as background music and
>Tanya Roberts attempting to act didn't help the movie any.  Also, Moore
>is getting a bit old to play the part of Bond, a "35 year old" agent of
>MI6.  Around here, some think that Mel Gibson would be good as the next
>Bond.  He would be more of a Connery-style Bond, more the rough and
>tumble type than the Bond Moore portrays.  This is just what some people
>think around here, though.  What do the net readers think ??
>
>Patricia White.

I've seen reference to this twice, and can't let it pass again.  The Beach
Boys are my favorite group (still), and that wasn't them in AVTAK.  Look
at the ending credits;  the song is of course theirs, but the (substandard)
performance is not.

Also, for new Bonds, how about Pierce Bosnan (sp?), the fellow who plays
Remington Steele.  (If he can stop hemming and hawing for a litle while.)


				Ted Nolan  ..usceast!ted
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training@rtech.UUCP (Training account) (05/31/85)

> AVTIK wasn't a bad movie, but the Beach Boys as background music and
> Tanya Roberts attempting to act didn't help the movie any.  Also, Moore
> is getting a bit old to play the part of Bond, a "35 year old" agent of
> MI6.  Around here, some think that Mel Gibson would be good as the next
> Bond.  He would be more of a Connery-style Bond, more the rough and
> tumble type than the Bond Moore portrays.  This is just what some people
> think around here, though.  What do the net readers think ??

I've heard that they're considering casting the star of "Remington Steele"
as the next James Bond.  Can't remember his name, though.

Also, I hate to admit that there was something in a James Bond movie
that I didn't understand, but I'm kind of baffled by one particular
scene.  In this scene, Roger Moore is unlocking a window from the outside
with some sort of magnetic credit card device.  That's ok, but the card
had the words "The Image Maker" on it.  What is that supposed to mean?

Robert Orenstein
Relational Technology

campbell@maynard.UUCP (Larry Campbell) (06/02/85)

> Also, I hate to admit that there was something in a James Bond movie
> that I didn't understand, but I'm kind of baffled by one particular
> scene.  In this scene, Roger Moore is unlocking a window from the outside
> with some sort of magnetic credit card device.  That's ok, but the card
> had the words "The Image Maker" on it.  What is that supposed to mean?
> 
> Robert Orenstein
> Relational Technology

Actually it had the words "The Sharper Image" on it, which if you get
their catalog you will find amusing.  And yes, Roger Moore is too old
(I never liked him anyway, Connery was much much better).

clark@sdcsla.UUCP (Clark Quinn) (06/04/85)

> I've heard that they're considering casting the star of "Remington Steele"
> as the next James Bond.  Can't remember his name, though.
  
Pierce Brosnan, and I hope not.  He's not bad as a TV actor, but for the
big screen?  I'd rather go with Mel Gibson, if he'd be interested, or some new
face.

> Also, I hate to admit that there was something in a James Bond movie
> that I didn't understand, but I'm kind of baffled by one particular
> scene.  In this scene, Roger Moore is unlocking a window from the outside
> with some sort of magnetic credit card device.  That's ok, but the card
> had the words "The Image Maker" on it.  What is that supposed to mean?
> 
> Robert Orenstein
> Relational Technology

Just a brief explanation about the name on the credit card.  The name
was Sharper Image.  They are a mail order catalog of unusual gadgets and 
high technology gizmachies (combination video camera/telephones and such :-)
Apparently they are making some sort of promotional connection with the movie.
Their latest catalog had a bunch of stills from the movie, although I didn't
expect to see their name in the movie.  Just another example of crass 
commercialism (altho, since I enjoy the Sharper Image catalogs, I didn't 
mind this one too much).

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -- Hunter S. Thompson

 Clark N. Quinn
 Institute for Cognitive Science C-015
 University of California, San Diego
 La Jolla, California 92093
 (619) 452-2541 (UCSD): (619) 481-0952 (Home)
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novick@uoregon.UUCP (novick) (06/11/85)

<does this bug still exist?>

The credit card used by Bond to open the window was a credit-card calculator
sold by The Sharper Image, the high-gadgetry outfit.  This seems to be part
of a double tie-in: the latest Sharper Image catalog is a sort of James Bond
--"A View to A Kill" theme issue.  The producers of the movie and the
gadgeteers probably realized the benefits of cross-plugging.  The movie
no doubt had to make sure that the credit-card logo came across loud and clear,
so they gave it a dramatically-undeserved tight close-up.

David Novick
uoregon!novick