[net.movies] second blood and mistakes

gary@think.ARPA (Gary Sabot) (06/02/85)

	There are two girls bright blue dresses that you can see along
the riverbank, and they appear a few minutes AFTER the girl that rescued
Rambo is killed.

	Do mistakes like this, or the very visible tow rope that pulls
the car Grace Jones is supposed to be pushing into a lake in A View To A
Kill, often appear in major movies?

lmv@houxa.UUCP (L.VANDERBILT) (06/05/85)

someone asked if mistakes as the girl in the blue dress and a tow
rope pulling a car in AVTAK happen often.

I say YES!! ALL THE TIME.   my all time favorie goof up is 
Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds.  Tippi Heddon (sp) goes into the
shop to buy the love birds and her hair is down to her shoulders
but when she comes out of the shop it is up in a bun........

reiher@ucla-cs.UUCP (06/06/85)

In article <1765@think.ARPA> gary@think.ARPA (Gary Sabot) writes:
>
>	There are two girls bright blue dresses that you can see along
>the riverbank, and they appear a few minutes AFTER the girl that rescued
>Rambo is killed.
>
>	Do mistakes like this, or the very visible tow rope that pulls
>the car Grace Jones is supposed to be pushing into a lake in A View To A
>Kill, often appear in major movies?

They are moderately common in lower budget Hollywood films (I'm talking about
budgets around $3-$5 million) and in films with lots of complex action
sequences, particularly those which are expensive or difficult to repeat.
For instance, in the car scene in "A View to a Kill", every time they reshot
it they had to drag the car out of the water again, give it time to drain
completely so that it wouldn't drip on camera, probably wash it and do some
refurbishing to make it look OK, before they could reshoot.  (They might have
used several identical cars, but since it was a Rolls Royce, if memory serves,
I doubt if they would have gone to that expense.)  In fact, they may have just
shot this scene once.

In "Second Blood", probably no one noticed the girls in the background until
after they had wrapped up shooting.  Once you notice, you don't take the
film crew back to Mexico at a cost of several hundred thousand dollars, you
just try to make sure that the mistake isn't too visible.  Alternately, if this
sequence involved lots of explosions, etc., in the same shot, then the 
producer may have thought it too expensive to set everything up again just to
cover one small problem.
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        			Peter Reiher
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				soon to be reiher@LOCUS.UCLA.EDU
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wmartin@brl-tgr.ARPA (Will Martin ) (06/12/85)

Wouldn't it be possible to use some editing or special effects trick to 
blur out the defects, whether it is a visible rope or a misplaced person?
After all, couldn't the rope image have been fuzzed into the image of the
water & shore, or the "woman in blue dress" be obliterated by a patch
of greenery or rock, again blurred and unfocused, via some sort of
post-production optical wizardry? (Or for that matter, somebody could
spend some hours going over the film frame by frame with a retoucher!)

Why not do this? It can't be THAT expensive, especially when compared
with the enormous costs of the film shot!

Will

csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (csdf) (06/19/85)

In article <11275@brl-tgr.ARPA> wmartin@brl-bmd.UUCP writes:
>Wouldn't it be possible to use some editing or special effects trick to 
>blur out the defects, whether it is a visible rope or a misplaced person?
>
>Why not do this? It can't be THAT expensive, especially when compared
>with the enormous costs of the film shot!

It expensive as all hell to do well, the blur has to look natural. The
time spent wouldn't be worth it.

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Charles Forsythe
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