[net.movies] St. Elmo's Fire

thoma@reed.UUCP (Ann Muir Thomas) (07/13/85)

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Here is what Pat Holmes (of _This Week_ magazine, a Portland weekly,)
thought of St. Elmo's Fire. (reprinted without permission) 
My own comments will follow.

St.Elmo's Fire--A group of college friends graduate and face what the
promotional material calls "their freshman year of life" in this
pathetic attempt at a "Big Chill" ensemble and ambience. The ads also
mention the cast as "seven of today's hottest young stars," but the
stars didn't earn their stardom. They (Emilio Estevez, Rob Lowe,
Andrew McCarthy, Demi Moore, Judd Nelson, Ally Sheedy, and Mare
Winningham) are stars because of the need for a constant supply of
pretty faces with which to woo the crowd. The wardrobe department
does most of the acting for them, and what they do seems like it was
done for a mirror-- not a camera or the audience. Winningham, who
shows the most promise (she's labored for years in TV movies) is
given an almost peripheral role, for which she should probably be
thankful. Lowe's narcissism has become almost unbearable, and Moore
gives hima run for his ego. It's like watching little kids play
grown-ups, badly. Call it the Big Pill, might be hard to swallow.
Rated R for language, sexual references.

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Well, ummmm.... I can't say that I agree with this review. St Elmo's
Fire was one of the most _un-gimmicky_ movies I have seen in a long
time. The main problem, to me, seemed to be with the script; there
were too many sub-plots, and not a lot of explanation of the group
staying together, all in the same city, after college. There was a
quality of "I don't quite believe this" to SEF the first time I saw
it. The second time was _much_ better, because I expected the
weaknesses and could see the good points of the movie better,
especially the characterization.

	The bit in the review about Rob Lowe and Demi Moore isn't
really fair. After all, do we not expect hoity-toity behavior from
many older stars? Also, the charcaters Lowe and Moore were playing
were written to be narcissistic-- a musician and a party girl. If
they were given these characters because they are naturally 
self-centered, maybe it's because that's the kind of character they
do best! (not to say that this is right, but it seems to be the
way Hollywood does things. Again there are certainly a lot of older
stars who get typecast into the kind of role that fits their
personality the best-- Sylvester Stallone and Jane Fonda are two
examples of this (and those of you who have more than my minimal
knowledge of show business can surely think of better ones...)).

	I noticed also that this reviewer ignored Ally Sheedy,
Andrew McCarthy and Judd Nelson completely. I'm not a Judd Nelson
fan (although he's a good actor), but Sheedy and McCarthy both
seem to bring a style to all their movies. The characters which
Sheedy played in The Breakfast Club and St. Elmo's certainly
weren't similar, but she handled bith roles well, while retaining
her own style. McCarthy isn't exactly what I'd call "another
pretty face," either.

	Mare Winningham was great! (Maybe this is where I agree
with the review) I don't watch TV so I'd never seen her before.
I hope Hollywood doesn't get too caught up in the glamor of Demi
Moore or Rob Lowe and ignore Winningham completely! (unfortunately,
they seem to be doing that already-- I occasionally look through
the teen magazines at the local 7-11, and have only seen Estevez,
Lowe, and Moore featured.  Ally Sheedy seems to appeal the most to
magazines etc, that are aimed at an older group of people.)

	In short, as someone in the audience that St. Elmo's Fire
was aimed at, I can say that it was less commercial, better acted,
and, sadly, more badly produced than other movies of its type, 
especially The Breakfast Club (It was particularly nice not to
have long sequences that could easily be turned into MTV money-
makers...).

Plenty more I could say about this one, but it's going to have to
wait...

(Disclaimer: Reed College doesn't want my opinions, so they don't
have to be responsible for this one.)

			Ann Muir Thomas
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connolly@steinmetz.UUCP (C. Ian Connolly) (07/22/85)

> stars didn't earn their stardom. They (Emilio Estevez, Rob Lowe,
> Andrew McCarthy, Demi Moore, Judd Nelson, Ally Sheedy, and Mare
> Winningham) are stars because of the need for a constant supply of
> pretty faces with which to woo the crowd.
> 			Ann Muir Thomas
> 			...tektronix!reed!thoma
Well, I'm not sure if this changes anything, but Emilio Estevez *did*
star in "Repo Man", for whatever that's worth...

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