endrizzi@sctc.com (Michael Endrizzi ) (08/10/90)
I have been using VADS Version 5 Unix self-hosting for 7 months now and
I cannot take it anymore. I am up to my eyeballs in "internal errors"
,"database inconsistency","segmentation error,core dump","out of memory".
4 of us used DEC VMS Ada version 1!!! for 1 and half years and I can
only remember about 4 or 5 errors. Myself in 7 months has found more
errors then that in a Version 5 compiler!!! I am at the point of
bypassing the recompile facilities and building my own Unix scripts
for recompiling and linking.
So tell me, am I the only one??? Tell me I'm not going insane, I'm
almost regretting moving from C to Ada (now that's desperate). Are
there any other compilers out there who's databases don't go south
on a sneeze. That implement generics in a fashion so that they compile.
That has a runtime system without endless loops. That has library
management tools that don't core dump and spit out Diana trees.
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dreez
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Michael J. Endrizzi
Secure Computing Technology Corp.
1210 W. County Road E #100
Arden Hills, Mn. 55112
endrizzi@sctc.com
(612) 482-7425
*Disclaimer: The opinions expressed above are not of my employer
but of the American people.
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=================================================================sampson@cod.NOSC.MIL (Charles H. Sampson) (08/10/90)
In article <1990Aug9.191734.11633@sctc.com> endrizzi@sctc.com (Michael Endrizzi ) writes: > > ... Are >there any other compilers out there who's databases don't go south >on a sneeze. That implement generics in a fashion so that they compile. >That has a runtime system without endless loops. That has library >management tools that don't core dump and spit out Diana trees. I've been very impressed with the IBM-PC version of the Alsys compiler. I've never used a Unix version but, knowing the way they keep all incarna- tions of the compiler in step, I would expect it to be equally solid. Charlie Sampson
ytlat@kk62.ericsson.se (Lennart AtternaesTT/UO) (08/11/90)
endrizzi@sctc.com (Michael Endrizzi ) writes: >I have been using VADS Version 5 Unix self-hosting for 7 months now and >I cannot take it anymore. I am up to my eyeballs in "internal errors" >,"database inconsistency","segmentation error,core dump","out of memory". >4 of us used DEC VMS Ada version 1!!! for 1 and half years and I can >only remember about 4 or 5 errors. Myself in 7 months has found more >errors then that in a Version 5 compiler!!! I am at the point of >bypassing the recompile facilities and building my own Unix scripts >for recompiling and linking. >So tell me, am I the only one??? Tell me I'm not going insane, I'm >almost regretting moving from C to Ada (now that's desperate). Are >there any other compilers out there who's databases don't go south >on a sneeze. That implement generics in a fashion so that they compile. >That has a runtime system without endless loops. That has library >management tools that don't core dump and spit out Diana trees. I have used VADS version 5.5 and 5.7 for three years and I have exactly the same experience. VADS can't handle nested generic, the library manager is a disaster with internal errors as a consequence and using floating point support (MC68881) needs a workaround. I don't know how many hours I have spent the last three years to find workarounds. A half a year ago I bought version 6.0g for Sun4 and naive enough I thougt that the new version would be improved, however, I found a bug that makes it impossible for us to use it, so we have to wait for the next release. My opinion is that VADS is not worth to be even compared to the VAX VMS Ada. Now I have had it and I would appreciate if someone could give me some information about other compilers for Sun3 and Sun4. -- Lennart Atternaes Ericsson Telecom AB Dep. KK/ETX/TT/UO Telephone Fax S-126 25 STOCKHOLM Nat 08-7197564 Nat 08-7196000, 7080 SWEDEN Int +46 8 7197564 Int +46 8 7196000, 7080 E-mail: ytlat@kk.ericsson.se
ted@grebyn.com (Ted Holden) (08/11/90)
In article <1990Aug9.191734.11633@sctc.com> endrizzi@sctc.com (Michael Endrizzi ) writes: > >I have been using VADS Version 5 Unix self-hosting for 7 months now and >I cannot take it anymore. I am up to my eyeballs in "internal errors" >......... >AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rumor has always had it that Verdix' Ada compiler was the very best, i.e. that everybody else has been experiencing more grief than you have. My own experiences with Ada gives me no reason to doubt this, nor do other experiences which I read about. Ted Holden HTE
jamesth@microsoft.UUCP (James THIELE) (08/13/90)
In article <2052@cod.NOSC.MIL> sampson@cod.nosc.mil.UUCP (Charles H. Sampson) writes: | I've been very impressed with the IBM-PC version of the Alsys compiler. |I've never used a Unix version but, knowing the way they keep all incarna- |tions of the compiler in step, I would expect it to be equally solid. | | Charlie Sampson I remember once using the Alsys hosted on Apollo and getting the error message "Uncaught Ada exception at xxxx". I eventually figured out that this was the compiler's clever and informative way of telling me I had an undeclared identifier. James Thiele -- microsoft!jamesth
ostlund@SRC.Honeywell.COM (John Ostlund) (08/17/90)
JIMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought I'd run into you some day in this group... Reply if this is the James Thiele I think it is... Later, JJ