lad@raybed2.ray.com (LISA LANE) (03/16/91)
I am interested in knowing what Configuration Management tools are being used on Ada projects, particularly projects with > 20,000 LOC. There seem to be very few tools available commercially, especially for Ultrix. Any information would be appreciated. -Also, which compiler was used on this project? -Were any other development tools used on this project - build generation tools, etc.? -Does this project have any special considerations - 2167A, etc.? -Are you (or were you) satisified with your tools? Thanks- Lisa Lane lad@swlvx6.msd.ray.com
jls@rutabaga.Rational.COM (Jim Showalter) (03/17/91)
>I am interested in knowing what Configuration Management tools >are being used on Ada projects, particularly projects with > 20,000 >LOC. We make CM tools for Ada projects that have been used successfully on projects even over 1MSLOC. I can send information if you give me a snail-mail address. >-Also, which compiler was used on this project? Ours--we make compilers too. >-Were any other development tools used on this project - build generation > tools, etc.? The build tools are integrated with the CM tools. >-Does this project have any special considerations - 2167A, etc.? Most of the projects using our CM tools also use our 2167A design and documentation tools. -- ***** DISCLAIMER: The opinions expressed herein are my own. Duh. Like you'd ever be able to find a company (or, for that matter, very many people) with opinions like mine. -- "When I want your opinion, I'll read it in your entrails."
sukan@ide.com (Sukan Makmuri) (03/26/91)
Hi,
I apologize if these questions has been asked too many times.
1. Has anyone compiled a list of Ada-related products (compiler, debuggers,
editors, reverse engineering, CM, etc.), and perhaps (objective :-))
comparisons on them?
2. What is the closest product like Saber-C for Ada?
3. How do I get more information on the Ada 9X activities and publications?
4. Has anyone compiled a list of Ada conferences, and how do they compare to
each other in terms of attendance & attendees (programmers, vs. managers vs.
end-users), how much does one get out of the conferences, etc?
Which ones are worth going, and how do I get more info on the conferences?
5. What is your opinion in the Ada market for Unix/Ultrix vs. VMS:
now and 5, 10 years from now?
6. What Object Oriented Analysis (OOA) methodology do you think is the most
appropriate for the Ada environment?
7. Which Object Oriented Design methodology and notation do you think is the
most appropriate for the Ada environment? Is there any specific
customization or enhancement to the methodology that you deploy when
implementing your system?
8. What is your major problem when designing and implementing a system in
Ada?
9. Is there a maintained list of the "most commonly asked questions?"
Please email directly to me, unless your reply affects people on the net.
If there's sufficient interest in the answers, I will summarize and post the
replies and repliers.
Thanks,
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Interactive Development Environment sukan@ide.comsukan@ide.com (Sukan Makmuri) (03/26/91)
Hi, I apologize if these questions has been asked too many times. 1. Has anyone compiled a list of Ada-related products (compiler, debuggers, editors, reverse engineering, CM, etc.), and perhaps (objective :-)) comparisons on them? 2. What is the closest product like Saber-C for Ada? 3. How do I get more information on the Ada 9X activities and publications? 4. Has anyone compiled a list of Ada conferences, and how do they compare to each other in terms of attendance & attendees (programmers, vs. managers vs. end-users), how much does one get out of the conferences, etc? Which ones are worth going, and how do I get more info on the conferences? 5. What is your opinion in the Ada market for Unix/Ultrix vs. VMS: now and 5, 10 years from now? 6. What Object Oriented Analysis (OOA) methodology do you think is the most appropriate for the Ada environment? 7. Which Object Oriented Design methodology and notation do you think is the most appropriate for the Ada environment? Is there any specific customization or enhancement to the methodology that you deploy when implementing your system? 8. What is your major problem when designing and implementing a system in Ada? 9. Is there a maintained list of the "most commonly asked questions?" Please email directly to me, unless your reply affects people on the net. If there's sufficient interest in the answers, I will summarize and post the replies and repliers. Thanks, -- ******************************************************************************* Sukan Makmuri Phone: (415) 543-1314 x335 FAX: (415) 543-3716 Interactive Development Environment sukan@ide.com
ploedere@TARTAN.COM (03/27/91)
Re: Lisa Lane (3/15) and Jim Showalter (3/17) messages For the last two years, we have designed and implemented a Configuration Management Assistant (CMA) under the STARS program. CMA addresses a number of configuration management issues, particularly in the setting of software reuse, e.g., the integration of systems from independently versioned and administered subsystems. The main theme of CMA is to help the user decide BEFORE building the system, whether the configuration is likely to (not) function properly and to pin-point potential troublespots. Put in Ada terms, CMA will for example tell which Ada libraries need to be combined to form a complete system configuration, and which versions of these libraries fit together. We are most interested to hear from the general Ada user community what their requirements are on CM in Ada projects. Particularly, we are struggling with the issue on where the boundaries are between a tool like CMA and source and object version control, Ada librarian functionality, release policies and procedures, engineering change request systems, etc. While we could incorporate all such functionality in CM, we would prefer a less monolithic approach. Which other tools should we interface with ? If you have feedback that you don't want to post to the general public, or if you want to know more about CMA, please send e-mail to ploedere@tartan.com. Erhard Ploedereder Chief Scientist Tartan, Inc.