jpren@alumni.colorado.edu (John Prentice) (06/26/91)
I received a request to post a summary of responses to my original request for information regarding Ada applications in an IBM/MVS domain. There were not a lot of responses, which I think is indicative of the lack of work goining on in the IBM/MVS world. While I'm at it, though, let me thank those that did respond! >From eachus@d74sun.mitre.org Tue Jun 11 23:28:58 1991 > > > Some answers and a question... First, stick to the PC or some >other environment for compiling/debugging etc. There are several >decent Ada cross-compilers, and although there are problems using Ada >tasking under MVS, these problems also occur under several other >operating systems, VMS for example. But MVS is definitely not the >environment to develop your code in. I once heard developing Ada on >MVS compared to "kicking a dead whale down the beach..." and every >project I know of which successfully used Ada on IBM mainframes did >not use MVS for development. (If you want the gory details, I can >refer you to people who actually WORKED in such an environment on WIS. >I managed to keep it at arms length.) The IBM development team on WIS >evetually switched to a Rational for development just so they could >get reasonable compile times. (It is not unusual for a compile to >take several times longer on a 3090 running MVS than on a 386, and the >386 is MUCH cheaper.) > > Second, a lot of the stuff developed for WIS and STANFINS-R >should be both available to you and directly applicable to what you >are doing. No need to keep re-inventing the wheel. > > And now for a request, we (MITRE) are going to be working with >Ben Brosgol at Alsys to develop a standard Ada decimal arithmetic >package and propose the interface as an ISO standard. There has been a >lot of work done already under SIGAda CAUWG, but we would certainly >appreciate additional input... There also should be some useful stuff >developed under STARS, but that is not targeted to the commercial >area. > > > Robert I. Eachus > >with STANDARD_DISCLAIMER; >use STANDARD_DISCLAIMER; >function MESSAGE (TEXT: in CLEVER_IDEAS) return BETTER_IDEAS is... >From bhanafee@ads.com Wed Jun 12 12:27:57 1991 > >Hi, >You might take a look at the simtel20 Ada repository. In particular, >I believe the CSPARTS area has some code for report generating. I >do not know much else other than it's there. If you have any problems >getting to this site (which is often very busy), you could also look >for a mirror site called wuarchive. I don't believe the mirror is >fully complete yet. Also, if you have not yet done so, you should >contact the Ada Information Clearinghouse and get on their (free) >mailing list. The phone # is 800/Ada-ic11 or 703/685-1477. > >The full name of the Ada repository is > >wsmr-simtel20.army.mil (192.88.110.20). The IP address is new, I >haven't tried it yet. The old IP address was 26.2.0.74. Also note >that this is not a UNIX site. There is a file with instructions >on how to use this site in the directory you log on to. > >Also, >wuarchive.wustl.edu (128.252.135.4). I have never used wuarchive, >so I don't know what you might find. > > >Brian Hanafee >From kmccook@logdis1.wr.aflc.af.mil Fri Jun 14 07:06:55 1991 > >We had a similar problem a few months ago. You probably want to look at >Intermetrics Ada Compiler, CICS, some ANSI SQL database, and get SAMEDL >from Intermetrics to go between Ada and the SQL (ie ..DATACOMDB). > >Feel free to call if you want some more help. > >Ken McCook >HQ 1926th CCSG/SCDD >Robins AFB, GA 31098-6346 >(DSN) 468-3224 >(912) 926-3224 >From telesoft!choll@uunet.UU.NET Tue Jun 18 03:52:46 1991 > >Hi John, > >In article <1991Jun11.183803.10781@colorado.edu> you write: >>I'm looking for information/feedback concerning using Ada on an IBM >>370 running MVS. >> >>To date, we have been evaluating compilers (Alsys and Intermetrics), >>and some PC based tools (e.g. AdaSage), and building interfaces to IBM >>software such as VSAM and ISPF. > >Have you talked to IBM about their Ada compiler and toolset? Just >curious. I work for TeleSoft, and we build the compilers for IBM. In >fact, I am presently working in the IBM group, and we have compilers >and development environments for VM/CMS, (VM/XA shortly - I believe), >MVS/XA, and MVS/ESA (to be released to IBM at the end of this month). > >The MVS compler is being used by the FAA for their new Air Traffic >Controller Systems, and they seem very happy with it. > >I do QA and Performance Measurement for the group, and this will be >our best release ever (from my perspective). > >Chris Holl >TeleSoft >San Diego, CA >(619) 457-2700 > >Disclaimer: Yes, this is a blatent plug for a TeleSoft/IBM product, >and I DO work for the company. I'm not in Sales however, and TeleSoft >doesn't even know I'm sending this. :-) >