leb@maccs.UUCP (Anthony Hurst) (03/09/88)
One of my students is interested in writing some of his own
video games using his Atari ST. I suggested that Forth would
be my choice, but he doesn't know if it is available for the
68000-based ST.
Does anyone out there have a version of Forth (preferably F83)
that will run on the ST ?
Thanks in advance.
...adh
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There are several versions of forth for the ST. The best most likly being Mach 2(not harm intended to other vendors) it comes with full gem support and is most likly the fast of all the forths. The only problem is that it is not still being sold as far as I know at this time, I hope that I am wrong. There is a PD version of forth by a MR. Bradley, it is a very good version of the lang. and supports the famous LINE-A commands, you should be able to pick it up somewhere, and if not it could be posted to you at so time in the future. later Barry P.S. Love that blitter chip!
mj@myrias.UUCP (Michal Jaegermann) (03/11/88)
Anthony Hurst asks: >>Does anyone out there have a version of Forth (preferably F83) >>that will run on the ST ? Forth on ST was available practically from a day one. All implementations, which I am aware of, are F83 with 32-bit wide stack (so no F83 in a strict sense). There is 4xForth, a product of Dragon Group. Very fast an very "traditional" in feel (you know - block screens, an editor with a heavy brain damage and the like). Some swear by it. I strongly dislike its indiosyncratic nature. A while ago Mach-Forth was advertised in Forth Dimensions (the same language for Amiga, Mac and ST). I have never seen a copy, but I heard some enthusiastic opinions about it. Rumors had that it is no longer available. I do not know if this is a true or not. My personal preference is Forthmacs, by Mitch Bradley. It is a stream files based Forth, which uses a version of microEmacs for its editor. It is very similar in look, feel and code to a Unix version of Forth which was quite recently posted to the net. No big wonder - the author is the same person. A "core" part of it - executables, lots of code, some rudimentary documentation, around 350Kbytes of software, was released by the author into the public and one may had it for an asking. Extensions (fuller documentation, GEM-interface, source with metacompiler, floating point, other goodies) are for sale for registered users. The author is on the net (...sun!wmb). Michal Jeagermann Myrias Research Corporation Edmonton, Alberta, CANADA ...ihnp4!alberta!myrias!mj
billk@crash.cts.com (Bill Kelly) (03/11/88)
I have Creative Solutions' Multi-Forth for the ST. I am currently
developing a commercial application in Multi-Forth. It supports
local multitasking and provides an easy interface to all of the GEM
routines. I recommend it highly.
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