ZMLEB@SCFVM.BITNET (Lee Brotzman) (01/12/89)
It appears that there are many people on the net that are either unaware of or do not understand the links between Usenet's comp.lang.forth news group and the FIGI-L mailing list on BITNET. The purpose of this message is to describe how the two groups on the two networks are allowed to communicate. The Forth Interest Group International List (FIGIL) was concieved and operated by Tamir Weiner on the BITNET network at node WEIZMANN in Israel. The list worked by having members send mail messages to Tamir. He would then gather the messages together and periodically mail them to each member of the mailing list. Due to growing demands on his time, he was no longer able to continue as moderator of the list. I volunteered to take over his duties, and the list was transferred to my BITNET site, SCFVM at NASA Goddard Space Flight Center. Soon after I became the FIGIL moderator, our site installed the LISTSERV mailing list server. This program performs many advanced mail and file handling functions, such as mailing list maintenance by user commands, automatic mail redistribution, file archival and distribution on request, etc. A mailing list was created for FIGIL and given the BITNET mailing address of FIGI-L@SCFVM (following the naming conventions common amongst LISTSERV mailing lists). New members on BITNET or other networks can request to receive FIGI-L mail by sending a mail message to LISTSERV@SCFVM.BITNET. The body of the mail message should contain only the following line: SUBSCRIBE FIGI-L Your Name LISTSERV will put your network address and name into the FIGI-L mailing list and whenever a mail message is sent to FIGI-L@SCFVM, LISTSERV will auto- matically send the mail message to you. FIGI-L now has subscribers from Belgium, Canada, Chile, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, the Netherlands, Norway, Switzerland, Taiwan, and 22 of the 50 United States. When Tamir had the moderator job, he arranged to have postings to Usenet's comp.lang.forth news group sent to him for inclusion in FIGIL. The same is true for FIGI-L. Thanks to the good graces of Erik Fair at Berkeley, all messages that are posted to comp.lang.forth are mailed directly to FIGI-L, where they are distributed to the group on BITNET. I also have the ability to post FIGI-L messages that originate on BITNET to Usenet. The effect is that every posting to one network is seen on the other. When FIGI-L went "interactive", meaning that mail messages are distributed as soon as received, I got some complaints from a few people that preferred the previous digest format. In response, I have been keeping notebooks of the FIGI-L and Usenet traffic, which I periodically send to a private list called FIGI-D, for FIGI-L Digest. LISTSERV has the capability to store these notebooks and other files for distribution to list members on request. Unfortunately, our system has not had the available disk space to hold them, so this feature remains unused for now. Hopefully, this situation will change, and FIGI-L can be turned into a file server as well as a mail server. I hope this clears up any confusion about the relationship between the Usenet and BITNET Forth groups. If you didn't care about it in the first place, I apologize for wasting your bandwidth. You can forward questions to me at ZMLEB@SCFVM.BITNET or zmleb@scfvm.gsfc.nasa.gov in Internet (that is, if your mailer knows about our node -- we were only connected to Internet recently). If you think your question might have global appeal, send it to FIGI-L@SCFVM.BITNET, and it will be distributed across the BITNET list. If you are getting this message from comp.lang.forth, your reply will be forwarded to FIGI-L through the gateway discussed above. Isn't networking wonderful? -- Lee Brotzman (FIGI-L Moderator)