[net.movies] Colorization of old monochrome prints

lauren@vortex.UUCP (Lauren Weinstein) (09/30/85)

It's time to get up on my soapbox and editorialize against what
has to be one of the more disgusting recent practices creeping
into television--computerized colorization of old B&W prints.

I'm sitting here watching a colorized version of the classic "Topper,"
and man, it's pretty sad.  Unnatural colors and fixed hues. 
Color smearing and edge effects.  Yuchh.  

The worst part is that you can't really turn it off.  Oh yeah, the
colorization people tell you to "turn down your color" if you don't like it.
But what does that give you?  Do you get back the original monochrome
shadings?  These shadings in many cases were very carefully designed and
executed during the original filmings.  Well, you DON'T get back the
original monochrome, since some peon selects arbitrary color values
for colorizations, and that means that the monochrome that results 
from turning down the color is based on those NEW values.  That is, there
is a fixed relationship between television monochrome values and
color choice/intensity.  If you choose arbitrary colors and intensities,
the resulting monochrome (when the color is turned off) is also arbitrary--
NOT what was in the original film.

It's really pretty disgusting to see what they're doing to these 
fine old films in the name of "progress" and the view that
"The American Public doesn't like watching Black and White..." 

--Lauren--

speaker@ttidcb.UUCP (Kenneth Speaker) (10/03/85)

Let's here it!  Apparently the process does not "sit on top" of the
intensity information, as the old hand coloring of prints did as this
would be eliminated by turning off the color.  I too have seen the results
of Hal Roach's efforts and am not amused.  But then, how many people use
B&W film today?  Everyone wants COLOR photographs of aunt Jennie and uncle
harry (both with gray hair, she in a black and white dress, he in his "sunday
best" black suit standing in front of their white house in the snow of mid-
winter in Cincinatti).  

In a related manner, add my disgust with the "modernization" of old silents,
such as Metropolis.  Sorry, comparing the copy of the original silent with
a the modern Moroder (sp?) update leaves little doubt which set of production
personnel understood the film, and which set was on an ego trip.

--Kne

larsen@utah-gr.UUCP (Mark Larsen) (10/05/85)

I remember the Silver anniversary special of the Twilight Zone had
portions of the third episode (starring a young Duval (sp?)) colorized
and I thought it was a splendid idea.  Now the wholesale colorization
of old B&W movies is another matter...
-lml

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