[net.movies] Agnes of God

terry@nrcvax.UUCP (Terry Grevstad) (10/04/85)

I haven't seen anything yet about _Agnes_of_God_ and since I just saw
it the other day and really enjoyed it, I thought I would express my
views.

It was a very well-rounded movie.  Some excellent acting performances,
good cinematography, good use of color in the settings, good script,
good editing, good plot.  

Visually, it is the first American film that I've seen (make that
commercial American film) that managed to learn anything from what
Ingmar Bergman has been putting out for years--like the use of color,
settings, visually defined emotions.

As far as acting performances went...Meg Tilly is fantastic as Agnes.
If she doesn't get an Oscar for this, I wash my hands of the whole
Motion Picture Academy.  Anne Bancroft is very good--as usual--as the
Mother Superior.  She comes up with a character that has many facets
and is really a person.  Jane Fonda, on the other hand, came across as
rather wooden in places.  Which is too bad, because I think she's a
pretty good actress, usually.  In many ways I kinda got the feeling
that this was just another "cause" movie for her.  Too bad.  However,
the movie is well worth seeing just for Tilly's performance alone.

Actually, I didn't want to see this film because I thought it would be
too much of a downer.  I wanted to see something a little more
off-the-wall if you will.  But it wasn't a downer.  The ending, while
not uplifting and invigorating, was satisfying and left you feeling
that everything had been resolved for the best of everyone concerned.

To wind up this article, I liked the movie.  It left you with some
good food for discussion--if you like analyzing movies, or
philosophizing about their content.  I'd recommend it.

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mangoe@umcp-cs.UUCP (Charley Wingate) (10/09/85)

In article <316@nrcvax.UUCP> terry@nrcvax.UUCP (Terry Grevstad) writes:

>I haven't seen anything yet about _Agnes_of_God_ and since I just saw
>it the other day and really enjoyed it, I thought I would express my
>views.

>It was a very well-rounded movie.  Some excellent acting performances,
>good cinematography, good use of color in the settings, good script,
>good editing, good plot.  

>Visually, it is the first American film that I've seen (make that
>commercial American film) that managed to learn anything from what
>Ingmar Bergman has been putting out for years--like the use of color,
>settings, visually defined emotions.

Well, if memory serves me, there's a very good reason: the cinematographer
(whose name eludes me unfortunately) worked on some of Bergman's films.

Charley Wingate

bobw@ncrcae.UUCP (Bob Williamson) (10/11/85)

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Just saw Agnes of God.  It was great.  Meg Tilly and Anne Bancroft will certainly
win Oscars.


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nax@cornell.UUCP (10/11/85)

From: nax (Nax-Paul)


The director of photography was Sven Nykvist (sp?), who is justifiably
famous for his work with you-know-whom.  The photography in AoG was
very good, but on the whole I found the movie disappointing: 
	- it was very Hollywood
	- Jane Fonda came off as stident and unbelievable
	- the shrink-as-detective idea was never raised above
	  the readymade cliches (Those meetings with the judge- ugh!)
	- the climax was predictable (I killed the baby!), and having Meg
	  Tilly stigmata-ize then was this movie's equivalent to the
	  gratuitous car chase
	- the ending was weak

One * out of four. Very Missable.

roger@celtics.UUCP (Roger Klorese) (10/17/85)

In article <1091@cornell.UUCP> nax@cornell.UUCP writes:
>From: nax (Nax-Paul)
>
>
>The director of photography was Sven Nykvist (sp?), who is justifiably
>famous for his work with you-know-whom.  The photography in AoG was
>very good, but on the whole I found the movie disappointing: 
>	- it was very Hollywood
...well, yeah, but it's a Hollywood film... at least I never thought of
"The Sound of Music"...
>	- Jane Fonda came off as stident and unbelievable
...unfortunately, she's the best Martha I've ever seen, and that includes
two on Broadway, Diahann Carroll and Elizabeth Ashley.  Why do they keep
casting outstandingly beautiful women as a character self-described as
an "ugly duckling"?  Ten years from now, at least Meryl Streep, Glenn
Close, or someone with a face with as much character will be available...
>	- the shrink-as-detective idea was never raised above
>	  the readymade cliches (Those meetings with the judge- ugh!)
...because it really was not an investigation into the truth of the crime
itself, but into the NATURE of truth.
>	- the climax was predictable (I killed the baby!), and having Meg
>	  Tilly stigmata-ize then was this movie's equivalent to the
>	  gratuitous car chase
...because this is one of those stories which doesn't really HAVE a climax
and a denouement... the real high point is the last moment.  
>	- the ending was weak
...well, that's what makes horce racing.  The author deleted a line from
the play, by the way, which made the ending less ambiguous; Martha quits
smoking in the play.  I'm glad he added the ambiguity.
>
>One * out of four. Very Missable.

I'll give it the other three.  And a half.
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briand@tekig4.UUCP (Brian Diehm) (10/17/85)

>Just saw Agnes of God.  It was great.  Meg Tilly and Anne Bancroft will
>certainly win Oscars.

Just saw Agnes of God.  It sucked.  Meg Tilly and Anne Bancroft will probably
win Oscars.  Good acting does not necessarily a good movie make.

-Brian Diehm
Tektronix, Inc.

P.S.  Jane Fonda should by now be ashamed of herself.  She's been playing the
      SAME role since Julia!  And it's a second-class role, too.

shiva@duts.UUCP (10/19/85)

> >Just saw Agnes of God.  It was great.  Meg Tilly and Anne Bancroft will
> >certainly win Oscars.
> 
> Just saw Agnes of God.  It sucked.....
> ...........  Good acting does not necessarily a good movie make.
> 
> -Brian Diehm
> Tektronix, Inc.

"I never met a movie I didn't like" --- me
"...then again, some movies are better then others"  --- me too

Agnes had it's moments, but don't pay $5 to see it. Catch the early
show for $3.50.
                                     your's cinematographically
                                     Shiva, Amdahl